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Because they could unintentionally leak that info to the wrong people? I dunno I’m not that trusting.

by hizxy 5y ago

drekipus 5y ago
I agree with this and it's what I did when I changed my employers. If they're your friends, you celebrate getting the job with them. Don't tell them the plans beforehand because that is just opening yourself up for problems. And you do end up looking a bit worse if you keep trying to find new places but not getting anywhere. (Not to say to distrust your friends; it's just that people chat naturally. secrets never remain secret for long.) I actually found my new job on stack overflow while i was searching for something while at work. I applied, had a month long interview, and I only told my friends when I was up to the final stages of the interview. but we were a cynical bunch and we were all lamenting to leave, so they enjoyed the idea of the place falling apart after I left. I also told them a few of my failures earlier in the year, so they knew what i was up to, but they often didn't have specifics that someone else in the company could try and pin me by.
sneak 5y ago
Nothing to leak. You're totally allowed to interview while employed. It's not like you're cheating on a partner. You are expected to maximize revenue.
- dvtrn 5y ago
  It sounds like you've enjoyed a career working for and with some really amazing people. Yes the ideal state is having employers who can take attrition on the chin and root for their people on the way out the door, and yes those kinds of employers exist. The opposite is also real, and acknowledging the former doesn't preclude the latter: I and judging from comments, others have also been in the kinds of shops that will cut someone loose for interviewing even for a second job when the first isn't providing the hours or income they need, and I and I presume others have also given whatever amount of quit-notice and then immediately been walked out the door even after expressing a willingness to stay aboard, finish up $project and help the team transition well once we leave+. So I can respect the ideal state while acknowledging some people have completely rational trepidation about who they share this kind of status information with. ---- [+]even though I personally think quit-notice more often than not, but certainly not always-often is a disservice to the person quitting
  - nuancebydefault 5y ago
    Maybe my vision on the subject is somehow coloured by the social safety net and labour legislation in the country i live in ... I quit: 5 weeks notice. My "shop cuts me loose" : 10 weeks notice. As a bonus, when they are really upset about my interviewing activities, i get off the hook immediately and get paid for 10 weeks without working for it. What is the risk? Some coworkers hinting to the employer about my leaving?

Because they could unintentionally leak that info to the wrong people? I dunno I’m not that trusting.

by hizxy 5y ago

Because they could unintentionally leak that info to the wrong people? I dunno I’m not that trusting.

I agree with this and it's what I did when I changed my employers. If they're your friends, you celebrate getting the job with them. Don't tell them the plans beforehand because that is just opening yourself up for problems. And you do end up looking a bit worse if you keep trying to find new places but not getting anywhere. (Not to say to distrust your friends; it's just that people chat naturally. secrets never remain secret for long.) I actually found my new job on stack overflow while i was searching for something while at work. I applied, had a month long interview, and I only told my friends when I was up to the final stages of the interview. but we were a cynical bunch and we were all lamenting to leave, so they enjoyed the idea of the place falling apart after I left. I also told them a few of my failures earlier in the year, so they knew what i was up to, but they often didn't have specifics that someone else in the company could try and pin me by.

sneak 5y ago

Nothing to leak. You're totally allowed to interview while employed. It's not like you're cheating on a partner. You are expected to maximize revenue.

dvtrn 5y ago
It sounds like you've enjoyed a career working for and with some really amazing people. Yes the ideal state is having employers who can take attrition on the chin and root for their people on the way out the door, and yes those kinds of employers exist. The opposite is also real, and acknowledging the former doesn't preclude the latter: I and judging from comments, others have also been in the kinds of shops that will cut someone loose for interviewing even for a second job when the first isn't providing the hours or income they need, and I and I presume others have also given whatever amount of quit-notice and then immediately been walked out the door even after expressing a willingness to stay aboard, finish up $project and help the team transition well once we leave+. So I can respect the ideal state while acknowledging some people have completely rational trepidation about who they share this kind of status information with. ---- [+]even though I personally think quit-notice more often than not, but certainly not always-often is a disservice to the person quitting
- nuancebydefault 5y ago
  Maybe my vision on the subject is somehow coloured by the social safety net and labour legislation in the country i live in ... I quit: 5 weeks notice. My "shop cuts me loose" : 10 weeks notice. As a bonus, when they are really upset about my interviewing activities, i get off the hook immediately and get paid for 10 weeks without working for it. What is the risk? Some coworkers hinting to the employer about my leaving?