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No, the Free Software Foundation has decided that the best person to be the public face of the movement, the best person to represent Free Software, is a walkin
by na85 5y ago
No, the Free Software Foundation has decided that the best person to be the public face of the movement, the best person to represent Free Software, is a walking media shitstorm known to creep on women and actively drive them away from participating with his behavior[0], who seems to spend an awful lot of words defending pedophiles on his blog, and who eats his toenails on camera.
That's who they think is the best leader to grow the Free Software movement.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21055792 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21055792
- beefbudd69 5y agostallmans the founder and face of the free software movement plus most people like him despite the numerous hitpieces and toxic comments such as your own
- krapp 5y agoUnless you plan on putting Richard Stallman's head in a Futurama jar, the FSF is going to have to learn to live on without him sooner or later. And if you can't even conceive of the possibility of other or better leadership, then you're not part of a movement, you're part of a cult.
- beefbudd69 5y ago*later rather than sooner ftfy
- retrocryptid 5y agomy suspicion is most people "tolerate" him as he is irrelevant to their daily existence.
- 533474 5y agoTruth always lies in the middle. I suggest to read this article by Hannah Wolfman-Jones with a response from civil-rights expert Nadine Strossen about the whole ordeal and make up your mind [0]. I am indifferent but I think everyone should read the two sides of the story [0] https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web
- krapp 5y agoThat article doesn't show both sides of the story. It, as well as the response, paint Stallman as a moral paragon whose flaws are just points of virtue, and dismisses criticism of him as nothing but cancel culture hysteria. It doesn't even attempt to be neutral or sympathetic when portraying the "other side."
- fsflover 5y agoWhich article shows both sides fairly?
- saurik 5y agoI would think the point was to have you read an article on the other side, not to find one magic article that presents both sides.
- krapp 5y agoNo, the point was for the author to present their inclusion of Richard Stallman as co-author of their book as some kind of valiant effort in defense of free speech and against the cancel culture she believes unfairly maligns him. The point of the response in that article was not to provide a contrary point of view but to further defend Richard Stallman and portray his critics as enemies of free speech engaged in a witch-hunt. And no charitable reading of a comment that says "Truth always lies in the middle. I suggest to read this article by Hannah Wolfman-Jones with a response from civil-rights expert Nadine Strossen about the whole ordeal and make up your mind" implies said article will only show the pro-Stallman point of view (literally to sell a book with his name on it) while arguments pro the other side are to be left entirely as an exercise for the reader, rather than presenting a point and counterpoint.
- Grimburger 5y agoWho do you think is the best leader to grow the Free Software movement?
- na85 5y agoJust about anyone would be better. Free Software is first and foremost a political movement. It would be better to have someone at the helm who isn't totally inept at navigating media and politics.
- pipeline_peak 5y agoLiterally some 15 yr old speaking in Eastern European lecture halls “I think free software would make the world better” is a better spokesperson.
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- retrocryptid 5y agoHow would a 15 year old in Eastern Europe have the opportunity to perv on women in tech in the US? Isn't that sort of the GNU brand? That and shitty docs.
- pipeline_peak 5y ago>How would a 15 year old in Eastern Europe have the opportunity to perv on women in tech in the US? I never implied he would've had the opportunity. I should've elaborated, I meant a 15 year old traveling to eastern European lecture halls to blah blah blah GNU would be better than a 30 yr retired, water bucket showering, absent minded professor-like toe jam muncher.
- d_tr 5y agoWhy specifically in Eastern Europe though?
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- t-3 5y agoFree software wouldn't even exist as a movement if it weren't for Stallman. Linux and *BSD wouldn't exist. Emacs and gcc wouldn't exist. Stallman is the FSF and they're irrelevant without him.
- na85 5y ago>Stallman is the FSF and they're irrelevant without him. So will the FSF just cease operations when he dies?
- protomyth 5y agoBSD wouldn't exist without Stallman? Could you explain that?
- t-3 5y agoI thought I had read that Stallman badgered the original dev of FreeBSD into adopting an open source license, but I can't find any references now. I probably misremembered, sorry!
- keithwinstein 5y agoYou may be thinking of http://techrights.org/2020/09/15/rmsf/ http://techrights.org/2020/09/15/rmsf/ : "So I asked Bostic himself. Originally, his reply was: 'It’s true. John Gillmore & Richard Stallman convinced me that opening up the sources was worthwhile, we wouldn’t have done that without their urging.'"
- throwaway81523 5y agoBSD per se would exist without Stallman--it already existed before the GNU project. But it was non-free because it contained AT&T proprietary Unix code. Stallman was influential in getting the proprietary parts replaced and the BSD license fixed to be usable for free software. Without that effort on his part and the GNU project's (e.g. the AT&T C compiler was replaced by GCC), BSD today would be quite irrelevant if not outright dead.
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- throwaway81523 5y agoYour rant says more about you than it does about Stallman.