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They have recently killed off on premise offerings, it's cloud only now. And this makes it harder to trust both the security and integrity of your data.

ocdtrekkie 5y ago
The fact that a single bad script could delete 400 of their customers should be absolute proof they do not have the processes in place to be a steward of your data in the cloud. On-prem or bust.
- dangus 5y ago
  On-premise just means that your overworked IT person is going to spend 5% of their time keeping your service maintained, at no point gaining any more than baseline familiarity with the product. On-premise isn’t a magic pill guaranteeing 100% uptime and 0 data loss. While on-premise may be a good choice in many cases, it’s not like running on-premise business tools has no risk associated with that choice. Remember that the goal of a company is to sell the most product possible (output) with the lowest cost possible (input). Any Joe off the street starting their own business can pay Atlassian $0/month for up to a 10 users. On-prem doesn’t compete with that.
  - dzikimarian 5y ago
    On Prem means you have control over spending. I calculated that if we've moved to the cloud, we would pay YEARLY as much as we spent on Atlassian licenses in last 5 years. That easily pays for the maintenance overhead on our devops team.
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hrpnk 5y ago
Afaik, the Data Center option still allows for on-premise deployment, incl. Kubernetes and cloud deployments [1, 2, 3]. [1] https://www.atlassian.com/enterprise/data-center https://www.atlassian.com/enterprise/data-center [2] https://confluence.atlassian.com/enterprise/jira-data-center-documentation-472219731.html https://confluence.atlassian.com/enterprise/jira-data-center... [3] https://confluence.atlassian.com/enterprise/deploying-enterprise-scale-jira-on-aws-a-step-by-step-guide-979435325.html https://confluence.atlassian.com/enterprise/deploying-enterp...

ocdtrekkie 5y ago

The fact that a single bad script could delete 400 of their customers should be absolute proof they do not have the processes in place to be a steward of your data in the cloud. On-prem or bust.

dangus 5y ago
On-premise just means that your overworked IT person is going to spend 5% of their time keeping your service maintained, at no point gaining any more than baseline familiarity with the product. On-premise isn’t a magic pill guaranteeing 100% uptime and 0 data loss. While on-premise may be a good choice in many cases, it’s not like running on-premise business tools has no risk associated with that choice. Remember that the goal of a company is to sell the most product possible (output) with the lowest cost possible (input). Any Joe off the street starting their own business can pay Atlassian $0/month for up to a 10 users. On-prem doesn’t compete with that.
- dzikimarian 5y ago
  On Prem means you have control over spending. I calculated that if we've moved to the cloud, we would pay YEARLY as much as we spent on Atlassian licenses in last 5 years. That easily pays for the maintenance overhead on our devops team.

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hrpnk 5y ago

Afaik, the Data Center option still allows for on-premise deployment, incl. Kubernetes and cloud deployments [1, 2, 3]. [1] https://www.atlassian.com/enterprise/data-center https://www.atlassian.com/enterprise/data-center [2] https://confluence.atlassian.com/enterprise/jira-data-center-documentation-472219731.html https://confluence.atlassian.com/enterprise/jira-data-center... [3] https://confluence.atlassian.com/enterprise/deploying-enterprise-scale-jira-on-aws-a-step-by-step-guide-979435325.html https://confluence.atlassian.com/enterprise/deploying-enterp...