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No. "Netflix / Disney etc seem to have copped onto one idea that works and just release the same tv show / movie over and over again with a slight tweak as it

No. "Netflix / Disney etc seem to have copped onto one idea that works and just release the same tv show / movie over and over again with a slight tweak as it brings the money in without any worries." This is the golden age of streaming. There's more diversity in show types on Netflix alone than across all platforms (movies, tv, direct to video) in the 90s. Paramount is almost entirely devoted to new Star Trek properties and HBO Max releases a new movie every month. If you aren't seeing innovation in story-telling its because you are a Philistine. This question has real "kids today" energy.

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mostertoaster 4y ago
No you’re wrong. Nearly everything made today is crap. There are different flavors of crap, but still all crap. You’re just on the side that likes that kind of crap. Kids today. :)
throwaway5848 4y ago
randcraw 4y ago
The state of moviemaking today shows how dead innovation has become. Unless the film can make upwards of $100 million across international distribution, it has no chance of being distributed, much less made. Trying to tell a script for adults that employs smart dialogue, unexpected plot twists, or quirky characters is a total nonstarter. Funding for those kinds of films is kaput. Instead, CGI bloodbaths sporting childish oversexualized cartoon characters that "whup up on each other" is the drek that has dominated our silver screens for over a decade. No golden age there.
- dgellow 4y ago
  That's complete bullshit. Look outside of your bubble, you have lot of movie production in Europe, India, East Asia and none match what you describe.
  - spectrum1234 4y ago
    It's both actually. To clarify, while there is more "good" TV now, through a mainstream view of any platform it really does all look like the same damn crap all over the place.
  - homonculus1 4y ago
    Who cares what's going on in Bollywood? I want my country's film industry to make films that are fresh and culturally relevant to me.
  - jdrc 4y ago
    europe hasnt made a good movie in decades and bollywood is obsessed with copying hollywood
    - dgellow 4y ago
      You have no idea of what you’re talking about. In the past year or so, from memory: - The Father 2020 - Titan 2021 - Another Round 2020 - Charlatan 2020 - Climax 2019 All of them are European movies and have been recognized internationally. None of them are even remotely close to copying another film. You can say that you don’t like or care about these movies but there is a lot of diversity in European productions.
- vimy 4y ago
  Those kind of movies moved to streaming platforms.
- vietthan 4y ago
  > Trying to tell a script for adults that employs smart dialogue, unexpected plot twists, or quirky characters is a total nonstarter. As an aside, you should check out "Everything Everywhere All At Once".
krapp 4y ago
People believe the internet is dead despite there being vastly more of everything on the internet now. People believe music, movies and video are dead despite services like Soundcloud and Youtube. People believe game devlopment is dead despite the explosion (in both quality and quantity) of indie gaming. People believe movies are dead despite Netflix and streaming. People still talk about television, theaters and newspapers as if they were relevant. The quality of everything is going up, but everything is shit now. I really am starting to wonder if Hacker News is just where old hackers go to yell at clouds.
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- jdrc 4y ago
  for each art form you mentioned 1 or 2 competitors with practically the same content. that's what people are talking about, lack of differentiation, not lack of access. And while there is 'everything' from the past on the internet, we re talking about what is being created now. Indie gaming sounds like an interesting new cohort for diverse content, but i still think most games are interchangeable, and even look the same because they use the same game engines. > television, theaters and newspapers in comparison, those had not consolidated into 1 or 2 brands, there were thousands of them worldwide and that matters, because it allowed obscure sub-cultures, which are the spices that then find their way into the global soup of western culture. Subcultures need a bubble to evolve in.
- antifa 4y ago
  > The quality of everything is going up, but everything is shit now. I think this is wrong. The average quality of everything is plummeting. Markets across the board are being flooded with shit. But there are some strongholds out there resisting this race to the bottom, and there are soulful indie projects that weren't possible before. If you were capable of producing something that wasn't shit, it's generally easier. But it's also easier for everyone to flood the market with shit. The rough is expanding faster than the diamonds.

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mostertoaster 4y ago

No you’re wrong. Nearly everything made today is crap. There are different flavors of crap, but still all crap. You’re just on the side that likes that kind of crap. Kids today. :)

throwaway5848 4y ago

randcraw 4y ago

The state of moviemaking today shows how dead innovation has become. Unless the film can make upwards of $100 million across international distribution, it has no chance of being distributed, much less made. Trying to tell a script for adults that employs smart dialogue, unexpected plot twists, or quirky characters is a total nonstarter. Funding for those kinds of films is kaput. Instead, CGI bloodbaths sporting childish oversexualized cartoon characters that "whup up on each other" is the drek that has dominated our silver screens for over a decade. No golden age there.

dgellow 4y ago
That's complete bullshit. Look outside of your bubble, you have lot of movie production in Europe, India, East Asia and none match what you describe.
- spectrum1234 4y ago
  It's both actually. To clarify, while there is more "good" TV now, through a mainstream view of any platform it really does all look like the same damn crap all over the place.
- homonculus1 4y ago
  Who cares what's going on in Bollywood? I want my country's film industry to make films that are fresh and culturally relevant to me.
- jdrc 4y ago
  europe hasnt made a good movie in decades and bollywood is obsessed with copying hollywood
  - dgellow 4y ago
    You have no idea of what you’re talking about. In the past year or so, from memory: - The Father 2020 - Titan 2021 - Another Round 2020 - Charlatan 2020 - Climax 2019 All of them are European movies and have been recognized internationally. None of them are even remotely close to copying another film. You can say that you don’t like or care about these movies but there is a lot of diversity in European productions.
vimy 4y ago
Those kind of movies moved to streaming platforms.
vietthan 4y ago
> Trying to tell a script for adults that employs smart dialogue, unexpected plot twists, or quirky characters is a total nonstarter. As an aside, you should check out "Everything Everywhere All At Once".

krapp 4y ago

People believe the internet is dead despite there being vastly more of everything on the internet now. People believe music, movies and video are dead despite services like Soundcloud and Youtube. People believe game devlopment is dead despite the explosion (in both quality and quantity) of indie gaming. People believe movies are dead despite Netflix and streaming. People still talk about television, theaters and newspapers as if they were relevant. The quality of everything is going up, but everything is shit now. I really am starting to wonder if Hacker News is just where old hackers go to yell at clouds.

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jdrc 4y ago
for each art form you mentioned 1 or 2 competitors with practically the same content. that's what people are talking about, lack of differentiation, not lack of access. And while there is 'everything' from the past on the internet, we re talking about what is being created now. Indie gaming sounds like an interesting new cohort for diverse content, but i still think most games are interchangeable, and even look the same because they use the same game engines. > television, theaters and newspapers in comparison, those had not consolidated into 1 or 2 brands, there were thousands of them worldwide and that matters, because it allowed obscure sub-cultures, which are the spices that then find their way into the global soup of western culture. Subcultures need a bubble to evolve in.
antifa 4y ago
> The quality of everything is going up, but everything is shit now. I think this is wrong. The average quality of everything is plummeting. Markets across the board are being flooded with shit. But there are some strongholds out there resisting this race to the bottom, and there are soulful indie projects that weren't possible before. If you were capable of producing something that wasn't shit, it's generally easier. But it's also easier for everyone to flood the market with shit. The rough is expanding faster than the diamonds.