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Because how can they prove how much he helped them and that NK didn't just find the majority of that stuff on their own without his help?

yakak 4y ago
For a US citizen, it is illegal to attempt to help NK avoid sanctions which is why the article says "conspired to help". Going and making a presentation on why moving gold bars is the way to go would be just as illegal.
- eimrine 4y ago
  It is almost a thoughtcrime! The governments can not find a real bad boy who has running Bitcoin, so a boy for beating like a cryptocurrency expert is enough welcome. It must be so disgusting to live in an empire who has to be kind of cocky like making some sanctions on export.
  - KptMarchewa 4y ago
    How it is a thoughtcrime if he literally traveled to North Korea to help them? It's not required that this help is useful. Plenty of spies transferred information that was already known by the recipient country, fake information, or even information that was deliberately passed to them by counterintelligence - it's still espionage.
  - apocalyptic0n3 4y ago
    You're focused entirely too much on the crypto aspect of this. He conspired to aid a country in invading sanctions of the United States. He asked the US State Department for permission before going, meaning he knew there could be potential legal consequences ahead of time. The State Department denied his request. He went anyway, provided information that the United States could prove he knew could be used to evade sanctions, and then returned to the United States after committing the crime. The crime has very little to do with the actual content of the presentation or the information he provided, or crypto whatsoever.
    - matthewdgreen 4y ago
      I too think he handled this in the worst possible way, but here is a good counterpoint about the 1st Amendment implications of the charges. https://www.justsecurity.org/67711/recent-north-korea-sanctions-arrest-raises-questions-about-free-speech-rights/ https://www.justsecurity.org/67711/recent-north-korea-sancti...
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > almost a thoughtcrime We’re free to discuss how Pyongyang can evade sanctions. In public, right here. We’re not free to travel to North Korea and say “here you go.” It’s not a subtle difference.
ShamelessC 4y ago
He pleaded guilty.
bitcurious 4y ago
North Korea knows how to create a nuclear bomb, yet if he went and disclosed how to make a nuclear bomb that would be problematic.

yakak 4y ago

For a US citizen, it is illegal to attempt to help NK avoid sanctions which is why the article says "conspired to help". Going and making a presentation on why moving gold bars is the way to go would be just as illegal.

eimrine 4y ago
It is almost a thoughtcrime! The governments can not find a real bad boy who has running Bitcoin, so a boy for beating like a cryptocurrency expert is enough welcome. It must be so disgusting to live in an empire who has to be kind of cocky like making some sanctions on export.
- KptMarchewa 4y ago
  How it is a thoughtcrime if he literally traveled to North Korea to help them? It's not required that this help is useful. Plenty of spies transferred information that was already known by the recipient country, fake information, or even information that was deliberately passed to them by counterintelligence - it's still espionage.
- apocalyptic0n3 4y ago
  You're focused entirely too much on the crypto aspect of this. He conspired to aid a country in invading sanctions of the United States. He asked the US State Department for permission before going, meaning he knew there could be potential legal consequences ahead of time. The State Department denied his request. He went anyway, provided information that the United States could prove he knew could be used to evade sanctions, and then returned to the United States after committing the crime. The crime has very little to do with the actual content of the presentation or the information he provided, or crypto whatsoever.
  - matthewdgreen 4y ago
    I too think he handled this in the worst possible way, but here is a good counterpoint about the 1st Amendment implications of the charges. https://www.justsecurity.org/67711/recent-north-korea-sanctions-arrest-raises-questions-about-free-speech-rights/ https://www.justsecurity.org/67711/recent-north-korea-sancti...
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > almost a thoughtcrime We’re free to discuss how Pyongyang can evade sanctions. In public, right here. We’re not free to travel to North Korea and say “here you go.” It’s not a subtle difference.

ShamelessC 4y ago

He pleaded guilty.

bitcurious 4y ago

North Korea knows how to create a nuclear bomb, yet if he went and disclosed how to make a nuclear bomb that would be problematic.