3 ms·

If it really disables recommendations and just displays content in chronological order, it would be quite nice. Although technically the differentiation isn't t

If it really disables recommendations and just displays content in chronological order, it would be quite nice. Although technically the differentiation isn't trivial. Is a simple search optimized for relevancy an algorithmic suggestion? I would say yes, even if it is clear what is meant in spirit of these laws: Suggesting buzzing content to increase engagement. Looking at Google results that clearly favor media outlets compared to any other content, something similar could maybe bring back better search results. I am amazed that Google sabotages their primary product in such a way.

jleyank 5y ago
Their primary product is delivering eyeballs to ads, and they’ve boiling-frogged us all to accepting them at the top of the search. Or, maybe income as been added to their legendary search algorithms?
whoopdedo 5y ago
Chronological order doesn't mean unbiased. LIFO is an algorithm. The only way to remove bias from the platform would be to deliver 100% of the available content at equal priority. But practical time and space limitations make that impossible. If a provider is nothing more than a dumb pipe moving bits from an input queue to an output queue, then the control of the moderation moves further away from the end user and into the hands of the content creators. Whoever is better and faster at getting their bits pushed into the pipe will be able to censor by brute force any opposing viewpoints. Better search won't change that. If the current state of search is trying to find the one independent needle in a pile of commercially produced hay, imagine how it will be when the farmer didn't hire someone to shovel all the manure out of the barn.
- BlueTemplar 5y ago
  You could allow the user to design his own algorithm...
- rakkhi 5y ago
  I like the search hackernews angolia filters: manual upvotes, time, match based on your keywords etc
  - robonerd 5y ago
    It's very basic, isn't it? There's no apparent way to sort the results oldest-first.
ekianjo 5y ago
Chronological order is the worst. It makes gaming the system easy by spamming as much as possible.
powerapple 5y ago
I think there is something lost in translation, the "recommendation" would means "personalization", mostly to do with using user data or behavior for recommendation, but a pure independent ranking algorithms.

jleyank 5y ago

Their primary product is delivering eyeballs to ads, and they’ve boiling-frogged us all to accepting them at the top of the search. Or, maybe income as been added to their legendary search algorithms?

whoopdedo 5y ago

Chronological order doesn't mean unbiased. LIFO is an algorithm. The only way to remove bias from the platform would be to deliver 100% of the available content at equal priority. But practical time and space limitations make that impossible. If a provider is nothing more than a dumb pipe moving bits from an input queue to an output queue, then the control of the moderation moves further away from the end user and into the hands of the content creators. Whoever is better and faster at getting their bits pushed into the pipe will be able to censor by brute force any opposing viewpoints. Better search won't change that. If the current state of search is trying to find the one independent needle in a pile of commercially produced hay, imagine how it will be when the farmer didn't hire someone to shovel all the manure out of the barn.

BlueTemplar 5y ago
You could allow the user to design his own algorithm...
rakkhi 5y ago
I like the search hackernews angolia filters: manual upvotes, time, match based on your keywords etc
- robonerd 5y ago
  It's very basic, isn't it? There's no apparent way to sort the results oldest-first.

ekianjo 5y ago

Chronological order is the worst. It makes gaming the system easy by spamming as much as possible.

powerapple 5y ago

I think there is something lost in translation, the "recommendation" would means "personalization", mostly to do with using user data or behavior for recommendation, but a pure independent ranking algorithms.