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> when you are a charity They are a non-profit only in the most technical sense these days, but have never been a charity.
by qeternity 5y ago
> when you are a charity
They are a non-profit only in the most technical sense these days, but have never been a charity.
- mardifoufs 5y agoYes you are right! I always mix charity and non profit. But yeah, Wikimedia became a huge organization with an annual budget of 150M$ (of which a lot goes to completely unrelated pet projects), so it is a non profit only in a technical sense as you said. But it still feels the need to plead (or almost beg) for 3-5$ donations yearly with huge call to action banners on every wiki page. Which is okay, I get that they need funds. But to then throw away 140 000$ worth of donations on a whim completely contradicts the "every dollar counts, please help" message of their fundraising banners.
- jackvalentine 5y agoWhere is the line for what they should accept as payment?
- 0xRolex 5y agoIt should be the same line regarding fiat so kinda low i'd say
- jackvalentine 5y agoShould they accept anything that can be exchanged for fiat without too much fuss?
- 0xRolex 5y agoI don't know, do they really check who donated fiat comes from and refuse donations when it comes from, let's say, anyone involved in anything against their values ?
- Liquid_Fire 5y agoChecking this may be impractical. But for crypto donations, you don't need to check - you _know_ that it was generated in an environmentally-unfriendly way (at least for the currencies currently accepted).
- wahnfrieden 5y agoeth is moving to proof of stake imminently
- topranks 5y agoIf I was waiting on a bus that was supposed to arrive “imminently” for this long I’d be well pissed off. https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2020/05/11/vitalik-buterin-says-much-delayed-ethereum-20-still-on-track-for-july-launch/ https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2020/05/11/vitalik-buterin-say...
- robonerd 5y agoI got sick of hearing this claim years ago. At this point, it's tantamount to gaslighting.
- 0xRolex 5y agoSince cross chain activity is made available that's not true, I could do 100% of my money on avalanche or solana and bridge some only to donate
- Liquid_Fire 5y agoAren't you just moving the work to someone else, who had to mine a Bitcoin block for your donation transaction to go through?
- 5560675260 5y agoYes? As long as "without too much fuss" holds - I don't see why not.
- 0xRolex 5y agoThen why not just accept serious stablecoins ? No speculations over it, just a virtual dollar, energy efficient allowing freedom and privacy to a lot ?
- jackvalentine 5y agoSo military surplus? Brown coal? These are things with functioning markets. Should wikipedia be obligated to accept my donation of them?
- formerly_proven 5y ago> But to then throw away 140 000$ worth of donations on a whim completely contradicts the "every dollar counts, please help" message of their fundraising banners. The former is a community decision, the latter is done by the WMF. Many in the community, probably a majority, are very annoyed by WMF's yearly dishonest begging runs, and WMF's interference in WP operations in general.
- topranks 5y agoI’m not sure how scale affects whether something is “non profit” or not. This decision has been taken by the community, aka users. This isn’t a decision the WMF has taken, nor have they responded thus far.