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Wikipedia is on a knife edge. It can flip quickly. I'm not sure what they are doing to keep it stable, but this is a bad sign. This should not be up to a vote.

Wikipedia is on a knife edge. It can flip quickly. I'm not sure what they are doing to keep it stable, but this is a bad sign. This should not be up to a vote. Wikipedia is there to be an encyclopedia, not have opinions on currency. People should be prepared for when Wikipedia becomes the enemy. F-Droid, DDG, Cloudflare all flipped at points. The problem is if Wikipedia treats themselves like a democracy with no strong constitution and legal system once these decisions on morals start, we all know where they end up, the same as Twitter.

oska 5y ago
I just vouched your comment. In return (not really), wondering if you could give me a little more detail on F-Droid 'flipping'. Because this is news to me.
- kuschku 5y ago
  F-Droid rejected Gab. A lot of nazi sympathizers and free speech absolutists disagreed with that move. That’s all there is to it.
- aaron695 5y ago
  By their own words they are political - "F-Droid is taking a political stance here." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20466730 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20466730 They should get points for admitting they are political I guess? Not sure. Obviously it started something, there have been a few small issues since. But I'd like to see how much time is wasted on talking compared to coding since. The lowbrow who can't code will say words like Nazi which holds back the people who contribute to society by construction. Gay marriage was because of coders not activists. This is what Wiki should fear.
DocTomoe 5y ago
Wikipedia flipped a long time ago. My local language's wikipedia is horrifically run by people deleting virtually any new content based on their own interpretation of rules, effectively turning away newcomers, and the English-language Wikipedia has a lot of articles with anything but NPOV content (and edit wars looming the moment you add other, non-popular information of a subject, even if sourced). Wikipedia still is a good source for general-purpose information on unpolitical topics, but the moment even the slightest amount of controversy exists around a lemma, it's unreliable and unusable.

oska 5y ago

I just vouched your comment. In return (not really), wondering if you could give me a little more detail on F-Droid 'flipping'. Because this is news to me.

kuschku 5y ago
F-Droid rejected Gab. A lot of nazi sympathizers and free speech absolutists disagreed with that move. That’s all there is to it.
aaron695 5y ago
By their own words they are political - "F-Droid is taking a political stance here." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20466730 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20466730 They should get points for admitting they are political I guess? Not sure. Obviously it started something, there have been a few small issues since. But I'd like to see how much time is wasted on talking compared to coding since. The lowbrow who can't code will say words like Nazi which holds back the people who contribute to society by construction. Gay marriage was because of coders not activists. This is what Wiki should fear.

DocTomoe 5y ago

Wikipedia flipped a long time ago. My local language's wikipedia is horrifically run by people deleting virtually any new content based on their own interpretation of rules, effectively turning away newcomers, and the English-language Wikipedia has a lot of articles with anything but NPOV content (and edit wars looming the moment you add other, non-popular information of a subject, even if sourced). Wikipedia still is a good source for general-purpose information on unpolitical topics, but the moment even the slightest amount of controversy exists around a lemma, it's unreliable and unusable.