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Do Texans really want all trucks from Mexico inspected for drugs and harboring illegal migrants? I guess as a non Texan, I just hadn't realize how big an issue

Do Texans really want all trucks from Mexico inspected for drugs and harboring illegal migrants? I guess as a non Texan, I just hadn't realize how big an issue this was to Texans personally.

sam36 5y ago
It is an extremely big problem: https://twitter.com/USBPChiefRGV https://twitter.com/USBPChiefRGV People that don't live here or those that just keep their head in the sand will never really see the big picture.
- didibus 5y ago
  I checked your link, I'm not sure what to make of it though. To be honest, I probably need to be schooled on the whole thing. Generally, when there's issues at a local level, my gut reaction is I probably just don't understand the problem. But I'll also probably start by asking naive questions. My first question is, it seems that yes there are lots of people trying to smuggle drugs or illegally enter the US for... Maybe working under the radar? Escaping Mexico? And I can believe that it is a hard job to prevent this. But it also seems to me like we made up the problem, why are we wanting to prevent the drugs and migrants in the first place? For the drugs, seems we might as well manufacture them ourselves, make them in the US, label them properly, dispense correct dosers, list out side effects and risks, and tax their sales. If people can get them through other channels, the demand for the Mexican one will reduce and that seems like it would naturally cause the smuggling to decrease. Or maybe, it wouldn't be smuggling anymore, just another import they self-declare and we tax, just like avocados. For migrants, I'm curious what they're looking for. Are they running away from danger and trying to find safety? Are they looking for work? And why don't we want them? We're worried they resort to crime and theft? We don't have jobs for them? They bring anti-democratic values with them and promote things that we worry would eventually destroy our democracy and take away our freedom? I think if any of those were true for migrants, I could see it being a harder problem. I'm not sure they are true though. But say they do lead to crime, violence, loss of democracy, loss of employment, and loss of freedom. If that's the case, it's definitely going to be challenging to stop so many people from entering such a big border. I get that. I guess I'm just missing that first link, do they cause all that trouble? Or are we just making up the problem?
cplusplusfellow 5y ago
I can tell you that I personally know multiple people who routinely make trips to the border to pick up immigrants and/or drugs. I care.
- gowld 5y ago
  Do you also want to stop consuming Mexican food and manufacturing?
  - cplusplusfellow 5y ago
    What does that have to do with illegal immigration and drug trafficking? I’m personally impacted by the shipment delays. I currently await more than $250,000 worth of product ordered from Mexico, so questioning my motives with false equivalencies isn’t going to get anywhere.
- digdigdag 5y ago
  I live in Texas. I don't care. This is just another political grandstanding to get back at Biden for repealing Title 42.
  - cplusplusfellow 5y ago
    Or is it political grandstanding to repeal title 42?
- didibus 5y ago
  You care that they not be allowed to do that anymore and that the utmost level of enforcement and surveying be put in place at all cost to stop them? I think that's the part you need to expand on, because even if I knew 10 people who crossed the border for that stuff, I wouldn't really care that much. So what makes you care so much, are there visible, arguably tractable second order effects resulting from this that I wouldn't be able to deny if I lived in Texas? And they're so bad to the Texan state that I'd too want this surveyed and enforced at all cost?
stjohnswarts 5y ago
No we don't but probably 55% of the state is behind this. There has been pretty much a 10% gap between D's and R's here for decades, but that's enough for them to control 100% of the state government. That plus the recent (4 years of Trump) increase in Trumpist idiocracy style of government has driven the current state government into a frenzy of racist, misogynistic, and homophobic legislation because they know that current far right SCOTUS will back them up.

Do Texans really want all trucks from Mexico inspected for drugs and harboring illegal migrants? I guess as a non Texan, I just hadn't realize how big an issue this was to Texans personally.

sam36 5y ago

It is an extremely big problem: https://twitter.com/USBPChiefRGV https://twitter.com/USBPChiefRGV People that don't live here or those that just keep their head in the sand will never really see the big picture.

didibus 5y ago
I checked your link, I'm not sure what to make of it though. To be honest, I probably need to be schooled on the whole thing. Generally, when there's issues at a local level, my gut reaction is I probably just don't understand the problem. But I'll also probably start by asking naive questions. My first question is, it seems that yes there are lots of people trying to smuggle drugs or illegally enter the US for... Maybe working under the radar? Escaping Mexico? And I can believe that it is a hard job to prevent this. But it also seems to me like we made up the problem, why are we wanting to prevent the drugs and migrants in the first place? For the drugs, seems we might as well manufacture them ourselves, make them in the US, label them properly, dispense correct dosers, list out side effects and risks, and tax their sales. If people can get them through other channels, the demand for the Mexican one will reduce and that seems like it would naturally cause the smuggling to decrease. Or maybe, it wouldn't be smuggling anymore, just another import they self-declare and we tax, just like avocados. For migrants, I'm curious what they're looking for. Are they running away from danger and trying to find safety? Are they looking for work? And why don't we want them? We're worried they resort to crime and theft? We don't have jobs for them? They bring anti-democratic values with them and promote things that we worry would eventually destroy our democracy and take away our freedom? I think if any of those were true for migrants, I could see it being a harder problem. I'm not sure they are true though. But say they do lead to crime, violence, loss of democracy, loss of employment, and loss of freedom. If that's the case, it's definitely going to be challenging to stop so many people from entering such a big border. I get that. I guess I'm just missing that first link, do they cause all that trouble? Or are we just making up the problem?

cplusplusfellow 5y ago

I can tell you that I personally know multiple people who routinely make trips to the border to pick up immigrants and/or drugs. I care.

gowld 5y ago
Do you also want to stop consuming Mexican food and manufacturing?
- cplusplusfellow 5y ago
  What does that have to do with illegal immigration and drug trafficking? I’m personally impacted by the shipment delays. I currently await more than $250,000 worth of product ordered from Mexico, so questioning my motives with false equivalencies isn’t going to get anywhere.
digdigdag 5y ago
I live in Texas. I don't care. This is just another political grandstanding to get back at Biden for repealing Title 42.
- cplusplusfellow 5y ago
  Or is it political grandstanding to repeal title 42?
didibus 5y ago
You care that they not be allowed to do that anymore and that the utmost level of enforcement and surveying be put in place at all cost to stop them? I think that's the part you need to expand on, because even if I knew 10 people who crossed the border for that stuff, I wouldn't really care that much. So what makes you care so much, are there visible, arguably tractable second order effects resulting from this that I wouldn't be able to deny if I lived in Texas? And they're so bad to the Texan state that I'd too want this surveyed and enforced at all cost?

stjohnswarts 5y ago

No we don't but probably 55% of the state is behind this. There has been pretty much a 10% gap between D's and R's here for decades, but that's enough for them to control 100% of the state government. That plus the recent (4 years of Trump) increase in Trumpist idiocracy style of government has driven the current state government into a frenzy of racist, misogynistic, and homophobic legislation because they know that current far right SCOTUS will back them up.