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No, most men know this has nothing to do with them. It's some warlord who taxes you at the point of a gun and threatens your freedom. They exist to wage wars an

No, most men know this has nothing to do with them. It's some warlord who taxes you at the point of a gun and threatens your freedom. They exist to wage wars and don't care for a second about the average guy. Why the hell fight for them? On top of that... what religion or atheists... say killing or violence is allowed? Philosophically we should be post war now. The big guys cant touch the other big guys. Nobody has nuclear/bioweapons but they are willing to use them. Lets just stop with the killing of each other. If we all agree no more killing for our warlord, nobody dies anymore. Maybe we go check out Proxima Centauri together?

AnimalMuppet 5y ago
Sounds nice. Really. But I also read the headlines. If you're post war, and your neighbor isn't, and you're not going to fight, and his people are... that doesn't end well for you. You say your guy is a warlord who taxes you at the point of a gun and threatens your freedom? Yeah, the other guy is going to kill some of you, and then tax you at the point of a gun and threaten your freedom. Maybe more so than your current guy. And maybe you had some say in picking your current guy, and you won't after you've been invaded. So, in the ideal world, yes, you're right. But this is not the ideal world.
- incomingpain 5y ago
  >But I also read the headlines. If you're post war, and your neighbor isn't, and you're not going to fight, and his people are... that doesn't end well for you. Are we going to keep pretending we don't have nukes and bioweapons? >You say your guy is a warlord who taxes you at the point of a gun and threatens your freedom? Yeah, the other guy is going to kill some of you, and then tax you at the point of a gun and threaten your freedom. Maybe more so than your current guy. The other guy is going to kill some, I agree. Then withdraw as of humanity starts dying. While our vaccinated people are immune to our bioweapon. >So, in the ideal world, yes, you're right. But this is not the ideal world. We have unprecedented peace because the threat of weapons of mass destruction. WMDs is a difficult risk to deal with. Can we all just agree not to do the war thing anymore?
  - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
    No. We can't. That should be obvious by now. And, for your approach to work, every country would have to have WMDs, or else the US (or somebody) would have to use their WMDs in defense of every country. It is very much not clear that your approach would be strictly better than the current state of affairs.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago

Sounds nice. Really. But I also read the headlines. If you're post war, and your neighbor isn't, and you're not going to fight, and his people are... that doesn't end well for you. You say your guy is a warlord who taxes you at the point of a gun and threatens your freedom? Yeah, the other guy is going to kill some of you, and then tax you at the point of a gun and threaten your freedom. Maybe more so than your current guy. And maybe you had some say in picking your current guy, and you won't after you've been invaded. So, in the ideal world, yes, you're right. But this is not the ideal world.

incomingpain 5y ago
>But I also read the headlines. If you're post war, and your neighbor isn't, and you're not going to fight, and his people are... that doesn't end well for you. Are we going to keep pretending we don't have nukes and bioweapons? >You say your guy is a warlord who taxes you at the point of a gun and threatens your freedom? Yeah, the other guy is going to kill some of you, and then tax you at the point of a gun and threaten your freedom. Maybe more so than your current guy. The other guy is going to kill some, I agree. Then withdraw as of humanity starts dying. While our vaccinated people are immune to our bioweapon. >So, in the ideal world, yes, you're right. But this is not the ideal world. We have unprecedented peace because the threat of weapons of mass destruction. WMDs is a difficult risk to deal with. Can we all just agree not to do the war thing anymore?
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  No. We can't. That should be obvious by now. And, for your approach to work, every country would have to have WMDs, or else the US (or somebody) would have to use their WMDs in defense of every country. It is very much not clear that your approach would be strictly better than the current state of affairs.