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What sorts of films don't lecture?

Izkata 5y ago
Most entertainment-oriented films. There's a big difference between "has a message" (which those usually do include) and "lecture" aka "beat you over the head with".
- delusional 5y ago
  I think most blockbuster "entertainment" movies are MORE heavy handed in their preaching. The big differentiator for me is that they preach what is already assumed. It's not that they don't lecture you, it's that they lecture you in what you already agree with. In that sense entertainment-movies are more like sermons from your pastor. It's a reframing of a story you've already been told a million times, so your brain can just switch off and absorb the message uncritically.
  - AlexandrB 5y ago
    Yes. The typical modern blockbuster constantly hits you over the head with its messages of "family" or "finding yourself" or "overcoming obstacles" of whatever like you're still in grade school. Compare that to something like No Country for Old Men - a movie with a much more nuanced set of ideas. Or even to older blockbusters like Die Hard which are more consistently focused on the action and keep the moralizing to a minimum.
rhapsodic 5y ago
ruined 5y ago
>What sorts of films don't lecture? the kind that confirm my existing ideology. i don't know if you've noticed, but people who do things that i understand are totally normal, and people who are different from me have dumb ideas. it's annoying when they talk.
- chrismeller 5y ago
  Blah, blah, blah… Not every moment has to be a teachable one.
KerrAvon 5y ago
Generally, popular films outside of documentaries don't lecture. It may be that you feel insecure and talked down to? Do you feel that way in normal human conversation?
wolverine876 5y ago
> What sorts of films don't lecture? Almost every sort of film, IME. I can hardly recall a film that 'lectured', if we mean the same thing, and it would be panned if it did. For one thing, if the filmmaker can't convey things without lecturing, they are in completely the wrong job. Does a painter have to add call-out boxes with labels? Second, they almost never have a specific message, but depict the world - art holds a mirror to the world (very generally speaking).

Most entertainment-oriented films. There's a big difference between "has a message" (which those usually do include) and "lecture" aka "beat you over the head with".

delusional 5y ago
I think most blockbuster "entertainment" movies are MORE heavy handed in their preaching. The big differentiator for me is that they preach what is already assumed. It's not that they don't lecture you, it's that they lecture you in what you already agree with. In that sense entertainment-movies are more like sermons from your pastor. It's a reframing of a story you've already been told a million times, so your brain can just switch off and absorb the message uncritically.
- AlexandrB 5y ago
  Yes. The typical modern blockbuster constantly hits you over the head with its messages of "family" or "finding yourself" or "overcoming obstacles" of whatever like you're still in grade school. Compare that to something like No Country for Old Men - a movie with a much more nuanced set of ideas. Or even to older blockbusters like Die Hard which are more consistently focused on the action and keep the moralizing to a minimum.

rhapsodic 5y ago

ruined 5y ago

>What sorts of films don't lecture? the kind that confirm my existing ideology. i don't know if you've noticed, but people who do things that i understand are totally normal, and people who are different from me have dumb ideas. it's annoying when they talk.

chrismeller 5y ago
Blah, blah, blah… Not every moment has to be a teachable one.

KerrAvon 5y ago

Generally, popular films outside of documentaries don't lecture. It may be that you feel insecure and talked down to? Do you feel that way in normal human conversation?

wolverine876 5y ago

> What sorts of films don't lecture? Almost every sort of film, IME. I can hardly recall a film that 'lectured', if we mean the same thing, and it would be panned if it did. For one thing, if the filmmaker can't convey things without lecturing, they are in completely the wrong job. Does a painter have to add call-out boxes with labels? Second, they almost never have a specific message, but depict the world - art holds a mirror to the world (very generally speaking).