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It doesn’t look like it can make vertical videos in the iPhone app yet which is a little disappointing. I’ve been looking for a simple video editing app for a

by scanr 4y ago

It doesn’t look like it can make vertical videos in the iPhone app yet which is a little disappointing. I’ve been looking for a simple video editing app for a family member who needs to post short form videos to social media. Fortunately there are alternatives. Clips looks pretty good. Other suggestions welcome. Just seems like a useful feature for iMovie to have.

nobrains 4y ago
1) Rotate the video to landscape in Photos app. 2) Import that video in iMovie and do all the editing you need to do. 3) Export the final video. 4) Rotate the final video back to portrait in Photo app.
- andruby 4y ago
  I assume that would break the orientation of text insertions?
  - jdironman 4y ago
    Aren't they hard-coded into frames?
smortaz 4y ago
yes it’s quite bizarre that key functionalities are split between the built in Editor and iMovie. almost all videos have to be done using both. doing vertical videos + text is very awkward.
savolai 4y ago
Wow, this is the one feature I expected would be the raison d’être for an update of iMovie. Now it's still useless. That's really odd.
armadsen 4y ago
LumaFusion is the obvious step up from iMovie. It's much more powerful than iMovie, but aims to also be very approachable for complete beginners. Disclaimer: My day job is as an engineer working on LumaFusion.
- iforgothnstuff 4y ago
  LumaFusion is great. Impressive speed, even on an older iPad. I honestly didn’t think it was possible. You guys are doing great stuff. And thanks for letting me own the software, not just rent it.
  - armadsen 4y ago
    Thanks for the kind words. I feel lucky to get to work on it. And I’m on the same page regarding subscriptions. I much prefer to own my tools too.
    - kingcharles 4y ago
      I looked on the web site but can't find the answer. Does LumaFusion support vertical videos in a sane fashion?
      - armadsen 4y ago
        Yes. You can explicitly set your project's aspect ratio, including 9:16 (which is the iPhone vertical ratio) and edit it that way. You can also include vertical video in a non-vertical project with black bars on the sides ("fit"), by cropping ("fill"), or stretching ("stretch").
- prox 4y ago
  Wow! I love LumaFusion! It’s hands down one of the best tools on my iPad for professional videos on-the-go.
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wunderflix 4y ago
We’ve developed a simple video camera app. We focus on parents who are beginners in creating videos like most people. And: we only do vertical videos. https://www.wunderflix.com/en/ https://www.wunderflix.com/en/ PS: let me know what you think if you give it a try!
mung 4y ago
My god it's tragic that vertical video has become a legitimate format when it really just arose from people holding their phones wrong.
- derefr 4y ago
  "Holding their phones wrong" — you mean, holding a rectangular affordance ergonomically in their hands? The odd thing to me is that you can't just tell your vertically-oriented phone to produce landscape video. The imaging sensor is square.
  - dagmx 4y ago
    The imaging sensor is a rectangle in roughly the same aspect ratio as what is captured by the stills mode. You can see that in any teardown. I do agree there's no "right orientation" though since it's subjective. However having a square sensor would be illogical
  - mung 4y ago
    Yes you are holding it wrong because the resulting video is clearly wrong if you view the video on a TV (same aspect ratio, other orientation), a computer or if you watch movies, or if you, well, see out your eyes. If you want to capture just about any action, it's going to look better in landscape, and that is why EVERYTHING until phones were put in the hands of plebs is shot in landscape. Now, you could argue that we've gone more mobile, and newer social media formats expect portrait, but, that doesn't change that it's risen because people take videos and never consider, "hmmm, if I turn it around, I get a better picture and it looks more like a TV! Duurrr." Just because it's more popular doesn't mean it's not stupid AF.
    - emptyparadise 4y ago
      What if I record videos for viewing on phones? Do I deserve insults too?
      - mung 4y ago
9991 4y ago
If you find yourself making vertical videos, you need to reexamine your life choices.
admiralpumpkin 4y ago
Clips is tragically underrated and underused.
mlindner 4y ago
> It doesn’t look like it can make vertical videos in the iPhone app yet which is a little disappointing. The longer we prevent vertical videos from happening as a society the better off we will all be for it. Our eyes aren't designed to watch vertical videos. Continue the good fight.
- baby 4y ago
  Honestly the fight is lost with instagram and tiktok
- savolai 4y ago
  Hm. I am not sure if your comment is sarcastic. So the following may be a waste. But I’ll follow it. Is your thesis that video should not be moving full screen on mobile devices in casual usage, i.e. Without the user rotating their device? To expand on this, should mobile device camera apps warn users to not shoot portrait video due to being ”unergonomical”?
  - mlindner 4y ago
    My thesis is that the most natural way of viewing videos is with a longer axis in the horizontal than in the vertical. Users should rotate their device to watch videos. > To expand on this, should mobile device camera apps warn users to not shoot portrait video due to being ”unergonomical”? Mobile phone camera apps shouldn't even understand the concept of shooting footage in a vertical direction.
    - savolai 4y ago
      The boat you are wishing for seems to have already sailed. Social apps are growing / have grown a generation that ejoys vertical video as a medium of its own. So whether vertical video is unnatural seems debatable either way at this point.
prawn 4y ago
Probably not considered simple, but the free tier of DaVinci Resolve is excellent and can make custom dimensioned videos. I produce a lot of videos in a variety of proportions (including 4x5 and 9x16) and it works well. Downside is that the interface is best for landscape videos; I always wish I could rearrange the interface to accommodate a larger vertical preview.

by scanr 4y ago

nobrains 4y ago

1) Rotate the video to landscape in Photos app. 2) Import that video in iMovie and do all the editing you need to do. 3) Export the final video. 4) Rotate the final video back to portrait in Photo app.

andruby 4y ago
I assume that would break the orientation of text insertions?
- jdironman 4y ago
  Aren't they hard-coded into frames?

smortaz 4y ago

yes it’s quite bizarre that key functionalities are split between the built in Editor and iMovie. almost all videos have to be done using both. doing vertical videos + text is very awkward.

savolai 4y ago

Wow, this is the one feature I expected would be the raison d’être for an update of iMovie. Now it's still useless. That's really odd.

armadsen 4y ago

LumaFusion is the obvious step up from iMovie. It's much more powerful than iMovie, but aims to also be very approachable for complete beginners. Disclaimer: My day job is as an engineer working on LumaFusion.

iforgothnstuff 4y ago
LumaFusion is great. Impressive speed, even on an older iPad. I honestly didn’t think it was possible. You guys are doing great stuff. And thanks for letting me own the software, not just rent it.
- armadsen 4y ago
  Thanks for the kind words. I feel lucky to get to work on it. And I’m on the same page regarding subscriptions. I much prefer to own my tools too.
  - kingcharles 4y ago
    I looked on the web site but can't find the answer. Does LumaFusion support vertical videos in a sane fashion?
    - armadsen 4y ago
      Yes. You can explicitly set your project's aspect ratio, including 9:16 (which is the iPhone vertical ratio) and edit it that way. You can also include vertical video in a non-vertical project with black bars on the sides ("fit"), by cropping ("fill"), or stretching ("stretch").
prox 4y ago
Wow! I love LumaFusion! It’s hands down one of the best tools on my iPad for professional videos on-the-go.

deleted 4y ago

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wunderflix 4y ago

We’ve developed a simple video camera app. We focus on parents who are beginners in creating videos like most people. And: we only do vertical videos. https://www.wunderflix.com/en/ https://www.wunderflix.com/en/ PS: let me know what you think if you give it a try!

mung 4y ago

My god it's tragic that vertical video has become a legitimate format when it really just arose from people holding their phones wrong.

derefr 4y ago
"Holding their phones wrong" — you mean, holding a rectangular affordance ergonomically in their hands? The odd thing to me is that you can't just tell your vertically-oriented phone to produce landscape video. The imaging sensor is square.
- dagmx 4y ago
  The imaging sensor is a rectangle in roughly the same aspect ratio as what is captured by the stills mode. You can see that in any teardown. I do agree there's no "right orientation" though since it's subjective. However having a square sensor would be illogical
- mung 4y ago
  Yes you are holding it wrong because the resulting video is clearly wrong if you view the video on a TV (same aspect ratio, other orientation), a computer or if you watch movies, or if you, well, see out your eyes. If you want to capture just about any action, it's going to look better in landscape, and that is why EVERYTHING until phones were put in the hands of plebs is shot in landscape. Now, you could argue that we've gone more mobile, and newer social media formats expect portrait, but, that doesn't change that it's risen because people take videos and never consider, "hmmm, if I turn it around, I get a better picture and it looks more like a TV! Duurrr." Just because it's more popular doesn't mean it's not stupid AF.
  - emptyparadise 4y ago
    What if I record videos for viewing on phones? Do I deserve insults too?
    - mung 4y ago

9991 4y ago

If you find yourself making vertical videos, you need to reexamine your life choices.

admiralpumpkin 4y ago

Clips is tragically underrated and underused.

mlindner 4y ago

> It doesn’t look like it can make vertical videos in the iPhone app yet which is a little disappointing. The longer we prevent vertical videos from happening as a society the better off we will all be for it. Our eyes aren't designed to watch vertical videos. Continue the good fight.

baby 4y ago
Honestly the fight is lost with instagram and tiktok
savolai 4y ago
Hm. I am not sure if your comment is sarcastic. So the following may be a waste. But I’ll follow it. Is your thesis that video should not be moving full screen on mobile devices in casual usage, i.e. Without the user rotating their device? To expand on this, should mobile device camera apps warn users to not shoot portrait video due to being ”unergonomical”?
- mlindner 4y ago
  My thesis is that the most natural way of viewing videos is with a longer axis in the horizontal than in the vertical. Users should rotate their device to watch videos. > To expand on this, should mobile device camera apps warn users to not shoot portrait video due to being ”unergonomical”? Mobile phone camera apps shouldn't even understand the concept of shooting footage in a vertical direction.
  - savolai 4y ago
    The boat you are wishing for seems to have already sailed. Social apps are growing / have grown a generation that ejoys vertical video as a medium of its own. So whether vertical video is unnatural seems debatable either way at this point.

prawn 4y ago

Probably not considered simple, but the free tier of DaVinci Resolve is excellent and can make custom dimensioned videos. I produce a lot of videos in a variety of proportions (including 4x5 and 9x16) and it works well. Downside is that the interface is best for landscape videos; I always wish I could rearrange the interface to accommodate a larger vertical preview.