<tinfoil hat> I always got the impression that there has been a lot of cloud propaganda/astroturfing, even on HN. I'm seeing more of these "on-prem infrastruct

<tinfoil hat> I always got the impression that there has been a lot of cloud propaganda/astroturfing, even on HN. I'm seeing more of these "on-prem infrastructure" posts, citing costs, efficiency, and cloud complexity. We run most of our infra on-prem, and have looked to moving a few bits and pieces to the cloud, but the math almost always works out to buying hardware. Meanwhile, I talk to some <cloud stack> friends, and their opex costs are astronomical for the traffic and size of their products. The cloud is extremely convenient, and I would choose it if I were launching a new product, but past certain sizes and expenses I would start to do some math. It's not terribly difficult to run these cloud "shrinkwrapped" products (such as load balancers) on-prem. Things like object storage seem more difficult to me. I'm also hesitant to admin a database, they intimidate me :)