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Is this a serious question or a Concern Troll? All of the data shows unionized working conditions and benefits are far better than the alternative in our neolib

Is this a serious question or a Concern Troll? All of the data shows unionized working conditions and benefits are far better than the alternative in our neoliberal hellscape.

nickff 5y ago
Please don’t accuse people of being trolls, it goes against the HN Guidelines: >” Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken.”
- brimble 5y ago
  HN desperately needs personal block lists. [EDIT] OK, some explanation is in order: because it's very bad at curbing posters who are either trolling or just very bad posters but it's not clear which (which is, precisely, what a classic troll is, when this is achieved on purpose), and its anti-poster-recognition design makes that even worse. Just let me block the ones who I find consistently posting what are either super-ignorant takes or are trolling, because it doesn't really matter to me which is the truth.
  - renewiltord 5y ago
    A friend made a trivial extension like this https://www.overmod.org/ https://www.overmod.org/ No promises that it still works since he abandoned it to go work on other things. I wrote some of the code so I could probably port it if it's broken.
giarc 5y ago
Not a troll, a serious question. As I understand, the starting wage for Amazon workers is $18/hr, way higher than minimum wage in the US. They also offer education credits and healthcare from day 1 (if I understand correctly). Could Amazon not roll back a bunch of these perks prior to unionization, therefore making working conditions worse? The physical demands will still be there, although the union could push for better training or sick time.
- fckgw 5y ago
  Nothing is preventing them from rolling them back now. A union would make it MORE DIFFICULT to roll back any benefits.

Is this a serious question or a Concern Troll? All of the data shows unionized working conditions and benefits are far better than the alternative in our neoliberal hellscape.

nickff 5y ago

Please don’t accuse people of being trolls, it goes against the HN Guidelines: >” Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken.”

brimble 5y ago
HN desperately needs personal block lists. [EDIT] OK, some explanation is in order: because it's very bad at curbing posters who are either trolling or just very bad posters but it's not clear which (which is, precisely, what a classic troll is, when this is achieved on purpose), and its anti-poster-recognition design makes that even worse. Just let me block the ones who I find consistently posting what are either super-ignorant takes or are trolling, because it doesn't really matter to me which is the truth.
- renewiltord 5y ago
  A friend made a trivial extension like this https://www.overmod.org/ https://www.overmod.org/ No promises that it still works since he abandoned it to go work on other things. I wrote some of the code so I could probably port it if it's broken.

giarc 5y ago

Not a troll, a serious question. As I understand, the starting wage for Amazon workers is $18/hr, way higher than minimum wage in the US. They also offer education credits and healthcare from day 1 (if I understand correctly). Could Amazon not roll back a bunch of these perks prior to unionization, therefore making working conditions worse? The physical demands will still be there, although the union could push for better training or sick time.

fckgw 5y ago
Nothing is preventing them from rolling them back now. A union would make it MORE DIFFICULT to roll back any benefits.