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>Jordan Peterson is asked by Dr. Zizek who the ‘post-modern neo Marxists’ are. The implication for the debate was that Zizek was the woke leader. As the debate
by incomingpain 5y ago
>Jordan Peterson is asked by Dr. Zizek who the ‘post-modern neo Marxists’ are.
The implication for the debate was that Zizek was the woke leader. As the debate went on and peterson wasn't prepared for this. It was clear that he is not. He is infact an enemy of the woke.
There are obvious true answers to the question but then there are those you might accidentally label.
Ibram X Kendi he like Ta-Nehisi Coates are accicental labels. AOC is just dumb, she gets airtime to humiliate herself and nothing else.
>There is no woke equivalent of Jordan Peterson who can speak for the movement or canonical texts.
For sure there is though right? How does this religion become so large without this?
>A Ben Shapiro tweet denouncing the left gets way more likes and re-tweets than anything published by the NYTs.
You will notice the NYT have shifted lately. Which is something unexpected to me. Bari weiss resigned from nytimes because she utterly failed to do her job and identify and journal on the woke within nyt. Yet here we are the NYT shifted. Not because of criticism from bari weiss to be sure. It has only been a few months. Perhaps all the woke are on vacation? They probably got shadow banned or explicitly fired.
There's also an equivalent movement in Canada, tara henly being the bari weiss.
>For example, Paul Graham latest’s essay, Heresy,
He is one of many who are identifying the religion. Yet obviously failing to identify. Check out john mcworter and sam harris talks for example.
>Thus, wokeness tends to be defined or framed by what it does or its manifestations (like people being fired or teaching CRT in schools), than actual individuals. It’s a conglomeration of generally low-key academics, functionaries, and activists who hold a constellation of views about structural racism and inequity in America that is influential in discourse.
The adherents of the religion hold positions such as positions within education. You're identifying adherents.
>making it impossible to un-elect or ‘fire’ the woke like you would a politician or a CEO, especially given that the woke are often not in elected positions of power.
You dont fire the pope or a cardinal.
>To quote Moldbug from the article The Cathedral or the Bizarre:
No, it's not grass roots or just a bizarre.
>Maybe we can blame George Soros,
Oh no, Soros is a woke enemy. White billionaire guy who opposed communism? Top enemy. He's a funny case to be sure.
>but he cannot compel a company as powerful and profitable as Google, Nike, Disney, or Facebook to ban people’s accounts or change the races or sexual orientations of its characters. A
Someone can though cant they. Not Soros but who?
>In the above video, Zizek describes the purported postmodern neo Marxists described by Peterson as ‘utterly impotent’. But if guys like Shapiro who have millions of followers cannot stop wokeness, who are really the impotent ones.
You also have to look at the likes of Debian, Mozilla, etc who don't have the same economic influence like Disney yet have gone woke as well.
When you realize it is a religion. That irreligious people need their opiate of the masses. That wokeness or antiracism or crt is but 1 of the features of the religion and start tying them together. covid response, climate change,etc are all part of this.
In a way the 'virtue signaling' is no different than what christians do in church. Praise jesus for repairing our sins for us. You dont actually change your sinful ways, you just have to tell a few prayers.
This was all inevitable. Contemporaries to Karl Marx predicted all of this to tremendous detail. They knew Marxism would be tried, it had to be tried. They knew it would collapse(maybe not specifically in 1989) as well as the tremendous amounts of death that would come with all this. Hell even the character of Joseph Tito was fully predicted in that when this stablizing figure. Not unlike your Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein; who were evil Im sure but they stabilized things. Upon their deaths the system would inevitably collapse.
The obvious prediction... what happens to socialism as it's record falls on the ground? It inevitably becomes a religion.