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ICE has been accused of performing large numbers of forced sterilizations within camps in US borders. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/politics/immigration-custo

ICE has been accused of performing large numbers of forced sterilizations within camps in US borders. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/politics/immigration-customs-enforcement-medical-care-detainees/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/politics/immigration-customs-...

nukemaster 5y ago
Yes, that's not incompatible with what I said.
- monocasa 5y ago
  What part of forcing sterilizations in camps in our borders is 'making things right for foreigners'?
  - nukemaster 5y ago
    Often != always.
    - monocasa 5y ago
      I'm sure that's what the CCP says about the Uighurs.
      - nukemaster 5y ago
        I think you should try rereading my comment.
        monocasa 5y ago
        Perhaps instead you should restate your argument in different words if you think you're being misunderstood.
tablespoon 5y ago
> ICE has been accused of performing large numbers of forced sterilizations within camps in US borders. > https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/politics/immigration-customs-enforcement-medical-care-detainees/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/politics/immigration-customs-... The hysterectomies weren't US or ICE policy, they were the result of poor oversight of one contract doctor who was committing malpractice. https://theintercept.com/2021/05/20/ice-irwin-hysterectomies-medical/ https://theintercept.com/2021/05/20/ice-irwin-hysterectomies... > ICE stopped sending immigrant women to Amin after the allegations of nonconsensual and unnecessary procedures came to light. The FBI is currently investigating Amin for a series of unnecessary, rough, or abusive procedures, according to a report in Prism by Tina Vásquez earlier this month. Amin is the doctor.
- monocasa 5y ago
  The feds shut down the entire facility after the allegations came out. It wasn't a case of one doctor.
  - tablespoon 5y ago
    > The feds shut down the entire facility after the allegations came out. It wasn't a case of one doctor. Well the hysterectomy thing was the one doctor (and the facility failing at its duty to properly oversee him). However, it wouldn't surprise me if there were other issues there as well.
    - monocasa 5y ago
      Habitually performing major surgery without informed consent is a structural problem that can't be pinned on a single doctor. An incredible amount of checks have to break down to get to that point.
      - tablespoon 5y ago
        > Habitually performing major surgery without informed consent is a structural problem that can't be pinned on a single doctor. An incredible amount of checks have to break down to get to that point. We agree.

nukemaster 5y ago

Yes, that's not incompatible with what I said.

monocasa 5y ago
What part of forcing sterilizations in camps in our borders is 'making things right for foreigners'?
- nukemaster 5y ago
  Often != always.
  - monocasa 5y ago
    I'm sure that's what the CCP says about the Uighurs.
    - nukemaster 5y ago
      I think you should try rereading my comment.
      - monocasa 5y ago
        Perhaps instead you should restate your argument in different words if you think you're being misunderstood.

tablespoon 5y ago

> ICE has been accused of performing large numbers of forced sterilizations within camps in US borders. > https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/politics/immigration-customs-enforcement-medical-care-detainees/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/politics/immigration-customs-... The hysterectomies weren't US or ICE policy, they were the result of poor oversight of one contract doctor who was committing malpractice. https://theintercept.com/2021/05/20/ice-irwin-hysterectomies-medical/ https://theintercept.com/2021/05/20/ice-irwin-hysterectomies... > ICE stopped sending immigrant women to Amin after the allegations of nonconsensual and unnecessary procedures came to light. The FBI is currently investigating Amin for a series of unnecessary, rough, or abusive procedures, according to a report in Prism by Tina Vásquez earlier this month. Amin is the doctor.

monocasa 5y ago
The feds shut down the entire facility after the allegations came out. It wasn't a case of one doctor.
- tablespoon 5y ago
  > The feds shut down the entire facility after the allegations came out. It wasn't a case of one doctor. Well the hysterectomy thing was the one doctor (and the facility failing at its duty to properly oversee him). However, it wouldn't surprise me if there were other issues there as well.
  - monocasa 5y ago
    Habitually performing major surgery without informed consent is a structural problem that can't be pinned on a single doctor. An incredible amount of checks have to break down to get to that point.
    - tablespoon 5y ago
      > Habitually performing major surgery without informed consent is a structural problem that can't be pinned on a single doctor. An incredible amount of checks have to break down to get to that point. We agree.