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When did the war was meant to capture the capital on day three? This is classical American way of waging wars: shock and awe followed by a mad dash to the capi

When did the war was meant to capture the capital on day three? This is classical American way of waging wars: shock and awe followed by a mad dash to the capital, declaring victory and then dealing with years of combat. As Clausewitz put, you win wars by destroying the enemy armies, and this is something the Russians, unfortunately, despite all propaganda in contrary are doing very well. Without direct NATO involvement, the main Ukrainian forces in the Donbas, will be completely encircled soon, cut from supplies and isolated. Yeah, I know that the "military experts" are keen on saying otherwise, but those experts are the same behind an 800 billion/year military that failed to pacify both Iraq and Afeghanistan. We would be wise not to trust their expertise so blindly.

KaiserPro 5y ago
> When did the war was meant to capture the capital on day three Because supply lines. As soon as you drop paratroopers, you have ~24 hours to reach them, or they are all fucked. They have limited ammo, no heavy support, unless you have air superiority. so dropping two waves of paratroopers is a dead giveaway. > This is classical American way of waging wars: shock and awe followed by a mad dash to the capital but to your point, this Russian war is not the classical American way of waging war. American war involves air superiority. close coop between armour, infantry and air, and keeping supply lines clear above all else. The amount of effort devoted to keeping forward bases stocked in Afghanistan is/was huge. But more importantly it involves letting the "machine" do the work, not just chuck men at the problem. > the main Ukrainian forces in the Donbas, will be completely encircled soon Mariupol is currently surrounded. But given that the Russians _still_ haven't managed to take the rest of Luhansk or donbas its seems optimistic. They've been at it since 2014. > an 800 billion/year military that failed to pacify both Iraq and Afeghanistan. which is also the point here. Now the Russians have one thing on their side here, they aren't afraid to just wholesale murder any civilian between 18-50. After all you can't have rebellion if there isn't anyone there to rebel. However I'm not really sure that pogroms are something to boast about.
yakak 5y ago
As far as I can tell there were two different groups of special forces that were supposed to travel quickly to storm Kyiv (a tank division and an actual airborne division.) The long delayed convoy seemed to have the problem that it wasn't competent to do anything once reaching Kyiv because it was only supposed to be reinforcement for the trained troops that had actually achieved nothing since they were killed or repelled.

KaiserPro 5y ago

> When did the war was meant to capture the capital on day three Because supply lines. As soon as you drop paratroopers, you have ~24 hours to reach them, or they are all fucked. They have limited ammo, no heavy support, unless you have air superiority. so dropping two waves of paratroopers is a dead giveaway. > This is classical American way of waging wars: shock and awe followed by a mad dash to the capital but to your point, this Russian war is not the classical American way of waging war. American war involves air superiority. close coop between armour, infantry and air, and keeping supply lines clear above all else. The amount of effort devoted to keeping forward bases stocked in Afghanistan is/was huge. But more importantly it involves letting the "machine" do the work, not just chuck men at the problem. > the main Ukrainian forces in the Donbas, will be completely encircled soon Mariupol is currently surrounded. But given that the Russians _still_ haven't managed to take the rest of Luhansk or donbas its seems optimistic. They've been at it since 2014. > an 800 billion/year military that failed to pacify both Iraq and Afeghanistan. which is also the point here. Now the Russians have one thing on their side here, they aren't afraid to just wholesale murder any civilian between 18-50. After all you can't have rebellion if there isn't anyone there to rebel. However I'm not really sure that pogroms are something to boast about.

yakak 5y ago

As far as I can tell there were two different groups of special forces that were supposed to travel quickly to storm Kyiv (a tank division and an actual airborne division.) The long delayed convoy seemed to have the problem that it wasn't competent to do anything once reaching Kyiv because it was only supposed to be reinforcement for the trained troops that had actually achieved nothing since they were killed or repelled.