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I am curious about the design. Is there an onboard computer that can send photos back to the operator? Or does the drone have to fly back and the operator coll

I am curious about the design. Is there an onboard computer that can send photos back to the operator? Or does the drone have to fly back and the operator collect the memory card.

yetihehe 5y ago
It probably has a cheap camera with transmitter so that operator can se where the drone is flying and a dslr to capture high quality photos for further intelligence gathering.
- throwaway4good 5y ago
  How does the operator control the camera? There has to be some sort of on-board computer and an interface between that and the camera.
  - 2000UltraDeluxe 5y ago
    Some of the higher-end cameras have ethernet ports, Wifi and Bluetooth. Not sure what the remote capabilities are, but remote-controlled shutters should be fairly easy.
    - throwaway4good 5y ago
      Yeah. But it requires an onboard computer with USB and WIFI which is not shown, and actually is kind of interesting. How does the computer link back to the operator? Is there bandwidth enough to send hires photos from the camera back?
      - 2000UltraDeluxe 5y ago
        This sub-thread was about speed cameras. I'd assume law enforcement agencies have some network they can hook the cameras up to. As for the drone in the video, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Raspberry Pi with a 4G modem, or some other remote networking option connected to it, somewhere inside it (or something of a similar hacky nature).
      - yetihehe 5y ago
        Probably the computer is on that stack of boards which presenter deemed "uninteresting".
netsharc 5y ago
They're probably using the HDMI/analog video output of the camera, like some streamers do, and broadcasting that video, maybe using analog transmission on the clear. Or they could put in a Raspberry Pi-esque computer in there and have a WiFi antenna. There are aftermarket reversing cameras that are wireless that I imagine could be repurposed for the transmission: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fen3nwtllEU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fen3nwtllEU , although the quality would be lower that using a Canon DSLR doesn't make sense.
thriftwy 5y ago
You can read about it on Wikipedia: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Орлан-10 https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Орлан-10 https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ЕСУ_ТЗ https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ЕСУ_ТЗ Yes, it can. I think the system is not nearly as sophisticated as whatever NATO uses for coordination of the military, but I assume it sort-of works, and judging by the cost of these you can allow yourself to lose a few of them.
- throwaway4good 5y ago
  I can see it is a part of a quite elaborate system. The last article mentions the ЕС1866 computer and Russian domestic chips. Is this whole system based on ELBRUS-computers?
  - thriftwy 5y ago
    It's just an industrial WIntel (LIntel?) laptop: http://www.nicevt.ru/ppevm-es1866-promyshlennyj-zashhishhennyj-noutbuk/ http://www.nicevt.ru/ppevm-es1866-promyshlennyj-zashhishhenn...
    - throwaway4good 5y ago
      I thought it was this guy: https://rostec.ru/en/news/rostec-presented-a-heavy-duty-laptop-for-use-in-extreme-conditions/ https://rostec.ru/en/news/rostec-presented-a-heavy-duty-lapt... Rostec Presents Ultra-High Strength Laptop For Extreme Conditions The Ruselectronics holding company, a member of the Rostec State Corporation, demonstrated a production sample of the Russian-made protected laptop for use in extreme conditions at the Innoprom-2018 international industrial fair. The hardware core of the PC is based on the Russian-made Elbrus 1C+ microchip.
rasz 5y ago
Most likely Canon because of liveview support: http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php https://www.crackedthecode.co/how-to-use-your-dslr-as-a-webcam-in-linux/ https://www.crackedthecode.co/how-to-use-your-dslr-as-a-webc... https://www.heandshephoto.com/canon-eos-rebel-xsi-450d-guide/using-live-view-with-tethered-shooting.html https://www.heandshephoto.com/canon-eos-rebel-xsi-450d-guide...

I am curious about the design. Is there an onboard computer that can send photos back to the operator? Or does the drone have to fly back and the operator collect the memory card.

yetihehe 5y ago

It probably has a cheap camera with transmitter so that operator can se where the drone is flying and a dslr to capture high quality photos for further intelligence gathering.

throwaway4good 5y ago
How does the operator control the camera? There has to be some sort of on-board computer and an interface between that and the camera.
- 2000UltraDeluxe 5y ago
  Some of the higher-end cameras have ethernet ports, Wifi and Bluetooth. Not sure what the remote capabilities are, but remote-controlled shutters should be fairly easy.
  - throwaway4good 5y ago
    Yeah. But it requires an onboard computer with USB and WIFI which is not shown, and actually is kind of interesting. How does the computer link back to the operator? Is there bandwidth enough to send hires photos from the camera back?
    - 2000UltraDeluxe 5y ago
      This sub-thread was about speed cameras. I'd assume law enforcement agencies have some network they can hook the cameras up to. As for the drone in the video, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Raspberry Pi with a 4G modem, or some other remote networking option connected to it, somewhere inside it (or something of a similar hacky nature).
    - yetihehe 5y ago
      Probably the computer is on that stack of boards which presenter deemed "uninteresting".

netsharc 5y ago

They're probably using the HDMI/analog video output of the camera, like some streamers do, and broadcasting that video, maybe using analog transmission on the clear. Or they could put in a Raspberry Pi-esque computer in there and have a WiFi antenna. There are aftermarket reversing cameras that are wireless that I imagine could be repurposed for the transmission: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fen3nwtllEU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fen3nwtllEU , although the quality would be lower that using a Canon DSLR doesn't make sense.

thriftwy 5y ago

You can read about it on Wikipedia: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Орлан-10 https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Орлан-10 https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ЕСУ_ТЗ https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ЕСУ_ТЗ Yes, it can. I think the system is not nearly as sophisticated as whatever NATO uses for coordination of the military, but I assume it sort-of works, and judging by the cost of these you can allow yourself to lose a few of them.

throwaway4good 5y ago
I can see it is a part of a quite elaborate system. The last article mentions the ЕС1866 computer and Russian domestic chips. Is this whole system based on ELBRUS-computers?
- thriftwy 5y ago
  It's just an industrial WIntel (LIntel?) laptop: http://www.nicevt.ru/ppevm-es1866-promyshlennyj-zashhishhennyj-noutbuk/ http://www.nicevt.ru/ppevm-es1866-promyshlennyj-zashhishhenn...
  - throwaway4good 5y ago
    I thought it was this guy: https://rostec.ru/en/news/rostec-presented-a-heavy-duty-laptop-for-use-in-extreme-conditions/ https://rostec.ru/en/news/rostec-presented-a-heavy-duty-lapt... Rostec Presents Ultra-High Strength Laptop For Extreme Conditions The Ruselectronics holding company, a member of the Rostec State Corporation, demonstrated a production sample of the Russian-made protected laptop for use in extreme conditions at the Innoprom-2018 international industrial fair. The hardware core of the PC is based on the Russian-made Elbrus 1C+ microchip.

rasz 5y ago

Most likely Canon because of liveview support: http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php https://www.crackedthecode.co/how-to-use-your-dslr-as-a-webcam-in-linux/ https://www.crackedthecode.co/how-to-use-your-dslr-as-a-webc... https://www.heandshephoto.com/canon-eos-rebel-xsi-450d-guide/using-live-view-with-tethered-shooting.html https://www.heandshephoto.com/canon-eos-rebel-xsi-450d-guide...