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Your real problem is this: > In the US, your health insurance is tied to your job. Why on earth is it that it doesn't matter which party gets elected, you can

by bArray 4y ago

Your real problem is this: > In the US, your health insurance is tied to your job. Why on earth is it that it doesn't matter which party gets elected, you can't seem to get universal health care? Pick California for example, it's a rich state with a massive homelessness problem. What do the homeless mostly suffer from? Addiction and mental health. Living in Europe and not having to worry about any kind of random health issue is great. If you have some problem, you get it seen to as soon as possible and not worry about whatever it may cost. As an employer things are simpler too, and in the long run, likely cheaper. It just seems incredibly backwards and I'm not sure it really actually serves anybody. If you're big Pharma, you want your patients to live longer, as they'll get older and have more issues that you can sell products for. If they lose their job, that's lost income.

dragonwriter 4y ago
> What do the homeless mostly suffer from? Not having a home.
- deleted 4y ago
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- xeromal 4y ago
  People love conflating people living on the streets as just homeless, but the approach to solve the problem really requires two solutions. The first is to provide housing for the people mentally capable of taking care of themselves. The rest require either public housing in a facility that can take care of them (abandoned mentally ill) or rehab programs that will hopefully help addicts recover and reestablish themselves. The mentally ill and addicts will not be able to function with just free housing.
- bArray 4y ago
  > > What do the homeless mostly suffer from? > Not having a home. There are typically quite some homeless programs running, but many get rejected for not abiding by the rules they (understandably) must have, i.e. don't be violent or do drugs. It's not enough to give these people a home, you must also address the reason they are homeless.
  - igorkraw 4y ago
    Housing first works: https://housingfirsteurope.eu/guide/what-is-housing-first/the-evidence-for-housing-first/ https://housingfirsteurope.eu/guide/what-is-housing-first/th... Most people tend to fall into moralistic behaviour regulation, but the reality is, quite often the barrier to improvement is homelessness and not drug addiction. Mental health is another thing, but it's much easier to provide care once they have a home/fixed address
axiolite 4y ago
> Why on earth is it that it doesn't matter which party gets elected, you can't seem to get universal health care? Because Republicans can tie-up such laws in committee to prevent it. Obamacare is a huge improvement over what came before. It's rather absurd to complain it isn't enough. > Pick California for example, it's a rich state with a massive homelessness problem. What do the homeless mostly suffer from? Addiction and mental health. California spends a considerable amount on generous public health programs. A great many homeless have health insurance from the public programs in California now. Tearing down all barriers would leave California at risk of medical tourism draining public funds.
- bArray 4y ago
  > Because Republicans can tie-up such laws in committee to prevent it. But this doesn't explain why it hasn't been achieved on the state level. > Obamacare is a huge improvement over what came before. It's rather absurd to complain it isn't enough. Not really, you can appreciate an improvement whilst looking forward towards further improvements. > California spends a considerable amount on generous public health programs. A great many homeless have health insurance from the public programs in California now. Tearing down all barriers would leave California at risk of medical tourism draining public funds. This sounds like a solvable problem. You could have an upfront tax or medical availability delay of a few years to make health tourism really unattractive. Blaming other people sounds like a great way to not deal with the issue.
  - axiolite 4y ago
    > Blaming other people sounds like a great way to not deal with the issue. I look forward to seeing how you fix it.
anothernewdude 4y ago
Because America has a right-wing party and a far-right party.

by bArray 4y ago

dragonwriter 4y ago

> What do the homeless mostly suffer from? Not having a home.

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xeromal 4y ago
People love conflating people living on the streets as just homeless, but the approach to solve the problem really requires two solutions. The first is to provide housing for the people mentally capable of taking care of themselves. The rest require either public housing in a facility that can take care of them (abandoned mentally ill) or rehab programs that will hopefully help addicts recover and reestablish themselves. The mentally ill and addicts will not be able to function with just free housing.
bArray 4y ago
> > What do the homeless mostly suffer from? > Not having a home. There are typically quite some homeless programs running, but many get rejected for not abiding by the rules they (understandably) must have, i.e. don't be violent or do drugs. It's not enough to give these people a home, you must also address the reason they are homeless.
- igorkraw 4y ago
  Housing first works: https://housingfirsteurope.eu/guide/what-is-housing-first/the-evidence-for-housing-first/ https://housingfirsteurope.eu/guide/what-is-housing-first/th... Most people tend to fall into moralistic behaviour regulation, but the reality is, quite often the barrier to improvement is homelessness and not drug addiction. Mental health is another thing, but it's much easier to provide care once they have a home/fixed address

axiolite 4y ago

> Why on earth is it that it doesn't matter which party gets elected, you can't seem to get universal health care? Because Republicans can tie-up such laws in committee to prevent it. Obamacare is a huge improvement over what came before. It's rather absurd to complain it isn't enough. > Pick California for example, it's a rich state with a massive homelessness problem. What do the homeless mostly suffer from? Addiction and mental health. California spends a considerable amount on generous public health programs. A great many homeless have health insurance from the public programs in California now. Tearing down all barriers would leave California at risk of medical tourism draining public funds.

bArray 4y ago
> Because Republicans can tie-up such laws in committee to prevent it. But this doesn't explain why it hasn't been achieved on the state level. > Obamacare is a huge improvement over what came before. It's rather absurd to complain it isn't enough. Not really, you can appreciate an improvement whilst looking forward towards further improvements. > California spends a considerable amount on generous public health programs. A great many homeless have health insurance from the public programs in California now. Tearing down all barriers would leave California at risk of medical tourism draining public funds. This sounds like a solvable problem. You could have an upfront tax or medical availability delay of a few years to make health tourism really unattractive. Blaming other people sounds like a great way to not deal with the issue.
- axiolite 4y ago
  > Blaming other people sounds like a great way to not deal with the issue. I look forward to seeing how you fix it.

anothernewdude 4y ago

Because America has a right-wing party and a far-right party.