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Taken another way, mentors are basically evaluating and selecting for individuals who are worthy of their time and attention. Granted, they have to, because tim

Taken another way, mentors are basically evaluating and selecting for individuals who are worthy of their time and attention. Granted, they have to, because time and attention are limited. But what I take issue with, is exactly the romanticization of mentorship in movies and self-help books that we see way too often. Mentorship basically does not exist for those in the bottom. As with everything else, "the rich only get richer". / end of another rant

muzani 5y ago
> "Mentorship basically does not exist for those in the bottom" I love movies for this and also why I recommended Piper. It's about a baby bird learning to get food, and a crab teaches it. But you can apply the same pattern everywhere. Movies have something called the Three Act Structure. Act 1: Hero faces a problem, tries to solve it their way, gets deeper in it. Act 2 begins where the hero is now stuck. There's a mentor by now that the hero doesn't acknowledge. The hero will continue to fail on their own and can't see the solution. Then the mentor points it out and all is solved, with Act 3 being the denouement. In Lion King, Timon & Pumbaa mentor Simba from being scared/guilty to being carefree, and again from carefree to bold. In romance films, it's usually two people changing a part of themselves for the other person. Boy learns to be honest, girl learns to be less judgemental. Conan learns that flesh can be stronger than steel. Sarah Connor learns about humanity from a robot assassin. And so on. I still like comparing it to dating, in that it just happens. It's awkward to make it formal and long term. Sometimes we have rituals for this, like university and 1-1s. Often you have to start the process long before the ritual, though.
- samh748 5y ago
  Thanks again for this! > I still like comparing it to dating, in that it just happens. It's awkward to make it formal and long term. Sometimes we have rituals for this, like university and 1-1s. Often you have to start the process long before the ritual, though. This last bit is especially golden. The informal process, the ritual. Too often I get fixated on trying to rush into "formal" territory, which then ruins things because it wasn't time for that yet. The informal aspects haven't played out and matured enough to become formal, something like that. Thank you so much for your "mentorship" :)

muzani 5y ago

> "Mentorship basically does not exist for those in the bottom" I love movies for this and also why I recommended Piper. It's about a baby bird learning to get food, and a crab teaches it. But you can apply the same pattern everywhere. Movies have something called the Three Act Structure. Act 1: Hero faces a problem, tries to solve it their way, gets deeper in it. Act 2 begins where the hero is now stuck. There's a mentor by now that the hero doesn't acknowledge. The hero will continue to fail on their own and can't see the solution. Then the mentor points it out and all is solved, with Act 3 being the denouement. In Lion King, Timon & Pumbaa mentor Simba from being scared/guilty to being carefree, and again from carefree to bold. In romance films, it's usually two people changing a part of themselves for the other person. Boy learns to be honest, girl learns to be less judgemental. Conan learns that flesh can be stronger than steel. Sarah Connor learns about humanity from a robot assassin. And so on. I still like comparing it to dating, in that it just happens. It's awkward to make it formal and long term. Sometimes we have rituals for this, like university and 1-1s. Often you have to start the process long before the ritual, though.

samh748 5y ago
Thanks again for this! > I still like comparing it to dating, in that it just happens. It's awkward to make it formal and long term. Sometimes we have rituals for this, like university and 1-1s. Often you have to start the process long before the ritual, though. This last bit is especially golden. The informal process, the ritual. Too often I get fixated on trying to rush into "formal" territory, which then ruins things because it wasn't time for that yet. The informal aspects haven't played out and matured enough to become formal, something like that. Thank you so much for your "mentorship" :)