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That supercollider/scsynth wasm thing was actually what I was thinking about. Unfortunately the implementation is still in a fork and hasn't been merged upstrea

That supercollider/scsynth wasm thing was actually what I was thinking about. Unfortunately the implementation is still in a fork and hasn't been merged upstream. [1],[2] Thanks for the other links, sema-engine was new to me and not in my original investigation. I think I skimmed over Maximilian but it is probably worth a closer look. One of the benefits of csound/supercollider in my mind are their existing communities and the number of available open source modules. I've seen entire repos full of .scd definitions which would give any project starting with supercollider as its engine a big head start. The main downside is the esoteric languages these projects tend to use, which is why I think there are so many projects that build on top of it. This is one of the benefits of the client/server model I suppose. I also agree that this whole area is full of different philosophies. At the low end you have straight DSP kind of stuff which is mostly floating point buffer manipulation, FFTs/convultions, etc. and at the other you have sequencers, scale pattern generators and composition tools. And of course the live performance aspect comes into play as well as interfacing/syncing with devices/DAW using OSC/Midi. I'm very excited to see where it all is going to end up. 1. https://github.com/supercollider/supercollider/issues/5224 https://github.com/supercollider/supercollider/issues/5224 2. https://github.com/supercollider/supercollider/pull/5571 https://github.com/supercollider/supercollider/pull/5571

PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
> At the low end you have ... and at the other you have ... Totally missing out on the actual DAWs where most people do most of this stuff. Yes, there is some interest in and use of standalone tools. But for all kinds of reasons, the majority of new audio software development occurs with the assumption that it will run within a DAW (or at least, a plugin host). One of the reasons for that is to offload almost all of the architectural issues to the host, and leave the developer to pay attention to the sorts of things you describe in the paragraph I was quoting from.
- reggieband 5y ago
  For my personal interest (probably no where near the majority) I am interested in these libraries primarily for use outside of a DAW. I mean, I already have a wealth of plugins for most conceivable purposes to use in one of the several DAWs I have installed. I am also in no hurry to move the kind of things I do in a DAW to a web based app. And frankly, none of the examples I've seen so far come within a country mile of the audio quality of the higher-end plugins I have. I'm interested in these libraries to see how we can expand on musical creativity outside of DAWs. The first thing that comes to my mind was the cute HTML 5 game Friday Night Funkin'[1]. Or games such as Lumines [2] where the rhythmic music is integral to the gameplay. And other kinds of interactive media where advanced control of synthesized audio might enhance the experience. I think it would be interesting to give people a simplified/gamified interface to a suite of audio tools with the intent to unlock creativity, especially aimed at a very young age (e.g. toddlers and pre-teens). This is a place I don't think traditional DAWs will ever attempt to target and where web-first experiences tend to do extremely well. Being able to quickly develop and deploy "good-enough" audio effects that have an element of interactivity for those kind of products/experiences would be nice to have. 1. https://ninja-muffin24.itch.io/funkin https://ninja-muffin24.itch.io/funkin 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4sCM5X96o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4sCM5X96o
  - PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
    Excellent and interesting response! The idea of responsive audio within a browser-based game had slid right by my old-fart brain. Will be interesting to see how that turns out.
  - fenomas 5y ago
    I work on this space a lot, and maintain a couple of libraries you might be interested in. They are very much focused on light quick "good enough" web audio music/sound effects. https://github.com/fenomas/wasgen https://github.com/fenomas/wasgen - a declarative abstraction layer around web audio oscillators and filters https://fenomas.github.io/wafxr/ https://fenomas.github.io/wafxr/ - a GUI front-end demo for the previous

PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago

> At the low end you have ... and at the other you have ... Totally missing out on the actual DAWs where most people do most of this stuff. Yes, there is some interest in and use of standalone tools. But for all kinds of reasons, the majority of new audio software development occurs with the assumption that it will run within a DAW (or at least, a plugin host). One of the reasons for that is to offload almost all of the architectural issues to the host, and leave the developer to pay attention to the sorts of things you describe in the paragraph I was quoting from.

reggieband 5y ago
For my personal interest (probably no where near the majority) I am interested in these libraries primarily for use outside of a DAW. I mean, I already have a wealth of plugins for most conceivable purposes to use in one of the several DAWs I have installed. I am also in no hurry to move the kind of things I do in a DAW to a web based app. And frankly, none of the examples I've seen so far come within a country mile of the audio quality of the higher-end plugins I have. I'm interested in these libraries to see how we can expand on musical creativity outside of DAWs. The first thing that comes to my mind was the cute HTML 5 game Friday Night Funkin'[1]. Or games such as Lumines [2] where the rhythmic music is integral to the gameplay. And other kinds of interactive media where advanced control of synthesized audio might enhance the experience. I think it would be interesting to give people a simplified/gamified interface to a suite of audio tools with the intent to unlock creativity, especially aimed at a very young age (e.g. toddlers and pre-teens). This is a place I don't think traditional DAWs will ever attempt to target and where web-first experiences tend to do extremely well. Being able to quickly develop and deploy "good-enough" audio effects that have an element of interactivity for those kind of products/experiences would be nice to have. 1. https://ninja-muffin24.itch.io/funkin https://ninja-muffin24.itch.io/funkin 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4sCM5X96o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4sCM5X96o
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
  Excellent and interesting response! The idea of responsive audio within a browser-based game had slid right by my old-fart brain. Will be interesting to see how that turns out.
- fenomas 5y ago
  I work on this space a lot, and maintain a couple of libraries you might be interested in. They are very much focused on light quick "good enough" web audio music/sound effects. https://github.com/fenomas/wasgen https://github.com/fenomas/wasgen - a declarative abstraction layer around web audio oscillators and filters https://fenomas.github.io/wafxr/ https://fenomas.github.io/wafxr/ - a GUI front-end demo for the previous