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I tried the m1 mini when it came out because I was hyped by all the m1 HN talk. This was my first time using macOS and besides the window management what I loat

I tried the m1 mini when it came out because I was hyped by all the m1 HN talk. This was my first time using macOS and besides the window management what I loathed was having to re-learn all the shortcuts I've been using for 20+ years, how no one mentions this is baffling to me. I tried to make it work more like "normal" windows / linux but I didn't find any good options and I always felt like I was running with my shoelaces untied. I'll stick with my linux i3 env for the foreseeable future

Veen 5y ago
It just takes time to get used to. I used Linux for a long time before switching to a Mac about seven years ago. I nearly returned my new MacBook to the store because I felt hamstrung by the UI. But in a few weeks, once I'd become accustomed to the application-centric windowing model, the keyboard shortcuts, and especially the touchpad gestures, it all clicked and I wouldn't go back now.
- jack_pp 5y ago
  My linux workflow is almost entirely keyboard-driven, there's no need for a touchpad than maybe doing things in the browser.
dmitriid 5y ago
Shortcuts are maddening when you just switch. But then you realise how much of the keyboard is underutilised in Windows. Linux uses the Meta key, but IIRC it was very app-specific, and not as comprehensively used. A lot of MacOS is keyboard driven [1][2], but it takes up to two weeks to get comfortable (it took me at least that long when I switched to MacOS in 2008). [1] But the new breed of "designers" at Apple no longer care about that. All new first-party apps that Apple vomits out are an abomination, UX-wise. And keyboard access there suffers as well. [2] There are a bunch of shortcuts that will work the same way across most apps (such as Cmd+<comma> for settings, or text navigation shortcuts), and that is a blessing. You can also assign custom shortcuts to any menu item in any app if you need directly from settings. Or you can re-assign behaviour of Ctrl/Caps Lock/Alt from settings as well. There are small things like this all across the system, but it does take getting used to.
- jack_pp 5y ago
  I doubt it could ever be as keyboard driven as linux with a tiling WM
zamalek 5y ago
Put Asahi on that M1, it's apparently great even though the work they have done with the GPU is still disabled.
- jack_pp 5y ago
  I returned it a long time ago and have no reason to replace my work thinkpad t490

Veen 5y ago

It just takes time to get used to. I used Linux for a long time before switching to a Mac about seven years ago. I nearly returned my new MacBook to the store because I felt hamstrung by the UI. But in a few weeks, once I'd become accustomed to the application-centric windowing model, the keyboard shortcuts, and especially the touchpad gestures, it all clicked and I wouldn't go back now.

jack_pp 5y ago
My linux workflow is almost entirely keyboard-driven, there's no need for a touchpad than maybe doing things in the browser.

dmitriid 5y ago

Shortcuts are maddening when you just switch. But then you realise how much of the keyboard is underutilised in Windows. Linux uses the Meta key, but IIRC it was very app-specific, and not as comprehensively used. A lot of MacOS is keyboard driven [1][2], but it takes up to two weeks to get comfortable (it took me at least that long when I switched to MacOS in 2008). [1] But the new breed of "designers" at Apple no longer care about that. All new first-party apps that Apple vomits out are an abomination, UX-wise. And keyboard access there suffers as well. [2] There are a bunch of shortcuts that will work the same way across most apps (such as Cmd+<comma> for settings, or text navigation shortcuts), and that is a blessing. You can also assign custom shortcuts to any menu item in any app if you need directly from settings. Or you can re-assign behaviour of Ctrl/Caps Lock/Alt from settings as well. There are small things like this all across the system, but it does take getting used to.

jack_pp 5y ago
I doubt it could ever be as keyboard driven as linux with a tiling WM

zamalek 5y ago

Put Asahi on that M1, it's apparently great even though the work they have done with the GPU is still disabled.

jack_pp 5y ago
I returned it a long time ago and have no reason to replace my work thinkpad t490