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This is Apple UX in a nutshell. Hidden power tools are not intuitive.

by jayd16 5y ago

Tagbert 5y ago
In part it is about progressive complexity. The simple things are exposed, more complex options require extra effort to access. Certainly there are times when it would be nice to make it easier to discover the more advanced features but there will always be a tension between keeping defaults simple for new users and exposing advanced features for the more serious users. Often they do it correctly but sometimes there are misses.
_aavaa_ 5y ago
We can argue about them being intuitive or not, but at least they exist.
lwkl 5y ago
How is this Apple UX specific? Windows UX and Linux UX work the same way. I'd argue a lot of power user feature are more accessible on macOS than on Windows. The shortcuts and gestures for macOS can be found in the system settings and you can change the shortcuts. How are you supposed to find them on Windows? I think people see macOS as more intuitive because it doesn't offer as much customization and is relatively consistent compared to Windows. Also it doesn't have as many nested menus. The system settings on macOS go maybe three levels deep while on Windows you can go at least 5 or six levels deep if not more. Now guess which one will feel more intuitive? The downside is you have to install some third-party tools if you want some features. But I prefer that to a lot of bloat.
- diffeomorphism 5y ago
  > How is this Apple UX specific? Windows UX and Linux UX work the same way. Meanwhile the post just below yours: "I have been using macs for 9 years and never knew ...". So, no. They don't. "Power user" things are much less discoverable on macs.
- FeepingCreature 5y ago
  In KDE, you discover features by trawling the settings. :-) "[x] Enable FooBar mode" oh hey, this tool has a FooBar mode! In my experience, almost the first thing I do when trying a new program is having a look through the settings.
- jayd16 5y ago
  >The shortcuts and gestures for macOS can be found in the system settings and you can change the shortcuts. Can they? Where can I find the shortcut to copy the current path in Finder?

This is Apple UX in a nutshell. Hidden power tools are not intuitive.

by jayd16 5y ago

This is Apple UX in a nutshell. Hidden power tools are not intuitive.

In part it is about progressive complexity. The simple things are exposed, more complex options require extra effort to access. Certainly there are times when it would be nice to make it easier to discover the more advanced features but there will always be a tension between keeping defaults simple for new users and exposing advanced features for the more serious users. Often they do it correctly but sometimes there are misses.

_aavaa_ 5y ago

We can argue about them being intuitive or not, but at least they exist.

lwkl 5y ago

How is this Apple UX specific? Windows UX and Linux UX work the same way. I'd argue a lot of power user feature are more accessible on macOS than on Windows. The shortcuts and gestures for macOS can be found in the system settings and you can change the shortcuts. How are you supposed to find them on Windows? I think people see macOS as more intuitive because it doesn't offer as much customization and is relatively consistent compared to Windows. Also it doesn't have as many nested menus. The system settings on macOS go maybe three levels deep while on Windows you can go at least 5 or six levels deep if not more. Now guess which one will feel more intuitive? The downside is you have to install some third-party tools if you want some features. But I prefer that to a lot of bloat.

diffeomorphism 5y ago
> How is this Apple UX specific? Windows UX and Linux UX work the same way. Meanwhile the post just below yours: "I have been using macs for 9 years and never knew ...". So, no. They don't. "Power user" things are much less discoverable on macs.
FeepingCreature 5y ago
In KDE, you discover features by trawling the settings. :-) "[x] Enable FooBar mode" oh hey, this tool has a FooBar mode! In my experience, almost the first thing I do when trying a new program is having a look through the settings.
jayd16 5y ago
>The shortcuts and gestures for macOS can be found in the system settings and you can change the shortcuts. Can they? Where can I find the shortcut to copy the current path in Finder?