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I laugh at verbose options that are: -v for basic verbose -vv for more -vvv for even more -vvvv oh come on you've got to be kidding -vvvvv nope, they're no

I laugh at verbose options that are: -v for basic verbose -vv for more -vvv for even more -vvvv oh come on you've got to be kidding -vvvvv nope, they're not kidding

banana_giraffe 5y ago
I keep hoping someone will do this with -v², -v³, and so on.
- Aachen 5y ago
  Where the base value is two and -v³ is a shortcut for -vvvvvvvv? Because it wouldn't work with a base of one (1³=1). Just assessing expectations because I do like the idea and would implement it (in addition to the expected way) next time it comes up
  - banana_giraffe 5y ago
    In my mind, -v³ would be the same as -vvv, and -v⁴ for -vvvv, and on and on. I suppose you could really take it to some absurd level with -v¹⁰ for -vvvvvvvvvv
  - layer8 5y ago
    The v is log scale, which does make some sense in terms of output volume. ;)
  - na85 5y ago
    Ah, but you'd have to error on any even power, since of course a negative squared is positive, thus -v^2 would be v^2 and without the dash you can't be sure it's a switch.
    - floodle 5y ago
      There's an easy solution to this: just use i for even exponents. So (-iv)² = -vv and once you've escaped the brackets in bash all is good. I think we're on to something here....
    - contravariant 5y ago
      Nah exponents have higher precedence than signs, it gets annoying otherwise.
limoce 5y ago
-vv ⇒ -w -vvvv ⇒ -ww Just a joke :)
- tillinghast 5y ago
  And yet… now I am deeply wishing for this. :-)
- yrro 5y ago
  -w should be equivalent to -uu surely!
  - filmor 5y ago
    Not in France ;)
- account42 5y ago
  Well usually you can use -vvvv -> -vv -vv so if you make your font size small enough that vv looks like a w..
saghm 5y ago
I absolutely hate this convention. Not only is there often very little documentation about what exactly gets added in for each verbosity level, making me guess randomly and then maybe binary search to find what I need with minimal noise, its basically impossible for me to differentiate repeated characters beyond 4 without using a cursor to step though them. I don't have any opposition to fine-grained log levels, but geez, just make it `-v [VERBOSITY (default 1)]` or something sane like that.

I laugh at verbose options that are: -v for basic verbose -vv for more -vvv for even more -vvvv oh come on you've got to be kidding -vvvvv nope, they're not kidding

banana_giraffe 5y ago

I keep hoping someone will do this with -v², -v³, and so on.

Aachen 5y ago
Where the base value is two and -v³ is a shortcut for -vvvvvvvv? Because it wouldn't work with a base of one (1³=1). Just assessing expectations because I do like the idea and would implement it (in addition to the expected way) next time it comes up
- banana_giraffe 5y ago
  In my mind, -v³ would be the same as -vvv, and -v⁴ for -vvvv, and on and on. I suppose you could really take it to some absurd level with -v¹⁰ for -vvvvvvvvvv
- layer8 5y ago
  The v is log scale, which does make some sense in terms of output volume. ;)
- na85 5y ago
  Ah, but you'd have to error on any even power, since of course a negative squared is positive, thus -v^2 would be v^2 and without the dash you can't be sure it's a switch.
  - floodle 5y ago
    There's an easy solution to this: just use i for even exponents. So (-iv)² = -vv and once you've escaped the brackets in bash all is good. I think we're on to something here....
  - contravariant 5y ago
    Nah exponents have higher precedence than signs, it gets annoying otherwise.

limoce 5y ago

-vv ⇒ -w -vvvv ⇒ -ww Just a joke :)

tillinghast 5y ago
And yet… now I am deeply wishing for this. :-)
yrro 5y ago
-w should be equivalent to -uu surely!
- filmor 5y ago
  Not in France ;)
account42 5y ago
Well usually you can use -vvvv -> -vv -vv so if you make your font size small enough that vv looks like a w..

saghm 5y ago

I absolutely hate this convention. Not only is there often very little documentation about what exactly gets added in for each verbosity level, making me guess randomly and then maybe binary search to find what I need with minimal noise, its basically impossible for me to differentiate repeated characters beyond 4 without using a cursor to step though them. I don't have any opposition to fine-grained log levels, but geez, just make it `-v [VERBOSITY (default 1)]` or something sane like that.