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Analog photography is quite amazing but, at least, in 35mm world it's not because of the resulting images but more in the cameras. Old, mechanical film cameras

Analog photography is quite amazing but, at least, in 35mm world it's not because of the resulting images but more in the cameras. Old, mechanical film cameras are much more pleasant to use for me. And before someone says that camera doesn't matter - it sure does. A camera that you like to use will be used more so you will end up "doing more photography". I also love black and white films. I've not tried monochrome digital cameras yet but I doubt that you would get the same output as black and white film. Not much of a fan in color photography when shooting 35mm but it gets interesting again in medium format ( or larger ). Pulling out the slides you've developed for the first time is a magical experience. Long live film. It got me into many interesting things that I didn't think I would ever so. Like write a ( small ) blog about photography ( https://50mmf2.com https://50mmf2.com ).

MartijnBraam 5y ago
Oh that's a pretty interesting blog, I do want to try some analog IR photography in the future. Seems like there's even some color IR film that produces quite amazing results but it's quite expensive.
- rATRIJS 5y ago
  Thanks! Infrared is very interesting. I recently got a digital infrared converted camera but haven't had too much time to use it. What I have shot with it has been cool. Infrared on film is harder as it's difficult to judge how much infrared light is available. The focus point is also slightly off. Live view definitely helps in that regard. I would recommend starting with infrared sensitive film ( e.g. Adox HR-50 ) and a red filter which will give infrared-ish results ( https://50mmf2.com/writings/adox-ir-hr-pro-50-film-review https://50mmf2.com/writings/adox-ir-hr-pro-50-film-review ). Since it sees visible light as well, it's easier to meter for and also focus. Good luck!
  - MartijnBraam 5y ago
    Finally a use for the IR distance offset thingies on the lenses :)
neverartful 5y ago
"Old, mechanical film cameras are much more pleasant to use for me." Me too! The big ker-chunk on my Pentax 6x7 or my Nikon F2 is very satisfying. I also don't mind the weight of either one. Granted, I don't take these cameras hiking. I actually prefer having a little heft to keep things steady.
igouy 5y ago
> I've not tried monochrome digital cameras Sony SLT a65, just set the "Creative Style" to B/W and the viewfinder shows B/W ;-) or post-process https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Black-and-White https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Black-and-White https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Film_Simulation https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Film_Simulation
- rATRIJS 5y ago
  Haha. I was meaning true monochrome cameras without the color array filter ( like the bayer or x-trans ) in front of the sensor. Like Leica monochrome cameras ( Leica M9M and later models ). You get a lot more detail that way and theoretically tonal / gray separation should be better as well. I do actually have two Sigma Foveon cameras ( DP2 and DP3 Merrill ) where the sensor is layered and each RGB pixel is layered on top of another. The detail you get out of those sensors is amazing the first time you see it. Black and white converts better too. That said I would still like a true monochrome camera to play with at some point.
  - igouy 5y ago
    Do you know of a "blind" A-B comparison between photos made with those different technologies? It's not even clear to me how to establish a like-to-like sensor resolution.
helloworld11 5y ago
Always love seeing other's black and white work, especially with film. Any posted examples of your own you'd like to share?

MartijnBraam 5y ago

Oh that's a pretty interesting blog, I do want to try some analog IR photography in the future. Seems like there's even some color IR film that produces quite amazing results but it's quite expensive.

rATRIJS 5y ago
Thanks! Infrared is very interesting. I recently got a digital infrared converted camera but haven't had too much time to use it. What I have shot with it has been cool. Infrared on film is harder as it's difficult to judge how much infrared light is available. The focus point is also slightly off. Live view definitely helps in that regard. I would recommend starting with infrared sensitive film ( e.g. Adox HR-50 ) and a red filter which will give infrared-ish results ( https://50mmf2.com/writings/adox-ir-hr-pro-50-film-review https://50mmf2.com/writings/adox-ir-hr-pro-50-film-review ). Since it sees visible light as well, it's easier to meter for and also focus. Good luck!
- MartijnBraam 5y ago
  Finally a use for the IR distance offset thingies on the lenses :)

neverartful 5y ago

"Old, mechanical film cameras are much more pleasant to use for me." Me too! The big ker-chunk on my Pentax 6x7 or my Nikon F2 is very satisfying. I also don't mind the weight of either one. Granted, I don't take these cameras hiking. I actually prefer having a little heft to keep things steady.

igouy 5y ago

> I've not tried monochrome digital cameras Sony SLT a65, just set the "Creative Style" to B/W and the viewfinder shows B/W ;-) or post-process https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Black-and-White https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Black-and-White https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Film_Simulation https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Film_Simulation

rATRIJS 5y ago
Haha. I was meaning true monochrome cameras without the color array filter ( like the bayer or x-trans ) in front of the sensor. Like Leica monochrome cameras ( Leica M9M and later models ). You get a lot more detail that way and theoretically tonal / gray separation should be better as well. I do actually have two Sigma Foveon cameras ( DP2 and DP3 Merrill ) where the sensor is layered and each RGB pixel is layered on top of another. The detail you get out of those sensors is amazing the first time you see it. Black and white converts better too. That said I would still like a true monochrome camera to play with at some point.
- igouy 5y ago
  Do you know of a "blind" A-B comparison between photos made with those different technologies? It's not even clear to me how to establish a like-to-like sensor resolution.

helloworld11 5y ago

Always love seeing other's black and white work, especially with film. Any posted examples of your own you'd like to share?