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What I think is happening: the JS ecosystem has been flooded by developers with minimal experience and/or education. They learn engineering principles like "do

by dolni 5y ago

What I think is happening: the JS ecosystem has been flooded by developers with minimal experience and/or education. They learn engineering principles like "don't repeat yourself" and take that to mean installing an entire dependency to implement left pad is a good idea. You are probably on to something with JavaScript being bug-prone as a factor in that. JS as an ecosystem has a really big problem with developers not knowing the value of simplicity.

ugjka 5y ago
You can't have simplicity when every other week someone is shoving a new framework down your throat. And in fact you are made look like a looser if you dare do things in vanilla JS
- dolni 5y ago
  This is a big problem in the tech industry, in general. Some weeks back I read a comment that described some behavior as "high intelligence, low wisdom". I believe that fits pretty well here. People design new frameworks (presumably) because they see an array of problems with existing frameworks. In designing their new framework, they try to address the shortcomings that the existing frameworks have. What they don't realize is that the problems in existing frameworks were _known tradeoffs_. Now, instead of the One True Perfect Framework, we have yet another framework with its own set of problems. People think that every problem is solvable simultaneously, but that's simply not true. You can make tradeoffs. And this isn't just true in engineering, it's true in life generally. Some tradeoffs make sense nearly always. Others only make sense in certain contexts. An example here is the tradeoff between simplicity and high availability. It doesn't matter what you do -- the simplest high availability configuration for an app will ALWAYS be more complex than the simplest non-HA configuration. You're making a trade here. It's a trade that is absolutely sensible, but it's a trade nonetheless. The lesson to be learned here is: stop thinking you can solve every problem at once. You can't.

by dolni 5y ago

ugjka 5y ago

You can't have simplicity when every other week someone is shoving a new framework down your throat. And in fact you are made look like a looser if you dare do things in vanilla JS

dolni 5y ago
This is a big problem in the tech industry, in general. Some weeks back I read a comment that described some behavior as "high intelligence, low wisdom". I believe that fits pretty well here. People design new frameworks (presumably) because they see an array of problems with existing frameworks. In designing their new framework, they try to address the shortcomings that the existing frameworks have. What they don't realize is that the problems in existing frameworks were _known tradeoffs_. Now, instead of the One True Perfect Framework, we have yet another framework with its own set of problems. People think that every problem is solvable simultaneously, but that's simply not true. You can make tradeoffs. And this isn't just true in engineering, it's true in life generally. Some tradeoffs make sense nearly always. Others only make sense in certain contexts. An example here is the tradeoff between simplicity and high availability. It doesn't matter what you do -- the simplest high availability configuration for an app will ALWAYS be more complex than the simplest non-HA configuration. You're making a trade here. It's a trade that is absolutely sensible, but it's a trade nonetheless. The lesson to be learned here is: stop thinking you can solve every problem at once. You can't.