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Throwing the adjective "Israeli" into the title is misleading as it suggest the state of Israel is somehow involved. The attackers used software from the NSO G

by mikece 5y ago

Throwing the adjective "Israeli" into the title is misleading as it suggest the state of Israel is somehow involved. The attackers used software from the NSO Group which sells to nations or entities willing to pay enough. Blaming Israel for this is like blaming Japan for all of the Toyota Hiluxes converted into gun platforms around the world.

fomine3 5y ago
Israel gov cooperated. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/magazine/nso-group-israel-spyware.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/magazine/nso-group-israel...
woolion 5y ago
This is patently false since there are anti-terrorist laws regulating the selling of encryption-related software. If a country is selling weapons to an armed group said country is rightly blamed for it. > Pegasus spyware is classified as a weapon by Israel and any export of the technology must be approved by the government. [0] Please explain how many Toyota Hiluxes are classified as weapons, require special government approval, etc. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSO_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSO_Group
eptcyka 5y ago
This headline similar (not equivalent) to "Ukranian fighters destroy Russian tanks with USA provided Javelin missiles". Given the impact of these hacks, geopolitically I think Israel will receive pressure from it's western friends about this issue.
- raxxorraxor 5y ago
  > I think Israel will receive pressure from it's western friends about this issue. Yeah, sure, pressure that they reduce the price for their licences perhaps.
  - eptcyka 5y ago
    That'd be the letter agencies calling the shots, but there might be some public opinions thrown about with no material changes backing them.
sofixa 5y ago
The Israeli MoD has to authorise sales of NSO spyware. So yes, Israeli is a very apt adjective.
magnio 5y ago
Toyota Hiluxes' main use is for moving around. What is the main use of this spyware?

by mikece 5y ago

fomine3 5y ago

Israel gov cooperated. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/magazine/nso-group-israel-spyware.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/magazine/nso-group-israel...

woolion 5y ago

This is patently false since there are anti-terrorist laws regulating the selling of encryption-related software. If a country is selling weapons to an armed group said country is rightly blamed for it. > Pegasus spyware is classified as a weapon by Israel and any export of the technology must be approved by the government. [0] Please explain how many Toyota Hiluxes are classified as weapons, require special government approval, etc. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSO_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSO_Group

eptcyka 5y ago

This headline similar (not equivalent) to "Ukranian fighters destroy Russian tanks with USA provided Javelin missiles". Given the impact of these hacks, geopolitically I think Israel will receive pressure from it's western friends about this issue.

raxxorraxor 5y ago
> I think Israel will receive pressure from it's western friends about this issue. Yeah, sure, pressure that they reduce the price for their licences perhaps.
- eptcyka 5y ago
  That'd be the letter agencies calling the shots, but there might be some public opinions thrown about with no material changes backing them.

sofixa 5y ago

The Israeli MoD has to authorise sales of NSO spyware. So yes, Israeli is a very apt adjective.

magnio 5y ago

Toyota Hiluxes' main use is for moving around. What is the main use of this spyware?