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There is no such thing as "US" driving test standards. Each state has its own requirements. Some are quite weak, and some are very vigorous: For instance, Maryl

There is no such thing as "US" driving test standards. Each state has its own requirements. Some are quite weak, and some are very vigorous: For instance, Maryland driving licenses are accepted 1:1 as equivalent to the German driving license, you can exchange them without an exam or test. NY and CA... do not simply transfer.

QuarterReptile 5y ago
The interesting thing is that Maryland drivers are among the worst I've seen over a wider spectrum of factors. Sober California drivers seem pretty safe. Virginia drivers are miserable on interstates because they pass one another at 1-3mph differentials (I assume this is a response to the reputed harsh soeeding enforcement there) and are victims of often-wrong signage, but are otherwise uninteresting. South Carolina drivers cause dangerous situations by trying to give away their right of way. Maryland drivers aggressively fight back agaibst merges, change lanes erratically, and crash in a quarter inch of snow at shocking rates, despite the fact that their salt trucks have higher mass-flow-rates than their snow storms. The only drivers who stand out vs Maryland are in big military areas where there's a significant minority of people driving 20mph faster than traffic and merging erratically while doing so.
- quartz 5y ago
  I think it's more a Baltimore / DC area issue than a Maryland one. Baltimore consistently ranks dead last in best driver reports with DC right behind: https://www.allstate.com/americas-best-drivers/index.htm https://www.allstate.com/americas-best-drivers/index.htm The commuting structure of those cities is just awful and begging for road rage.
- argiopetech 5y ago
  Having just left VA after a year in residence, VA drivers pass at 1-3mph deltas because they're already doing 15mph+ over the speed limit. Perhaps enforcement is different in southern VA, but I'd estimate only seeing speed traps/vehicles pulled over once every 3-4 weeks. Maryland (and, to a lesser degree, New Jersey) drivers are legitimately terrible whenever you find them.
- KSPAtlas 5y ago
  I mean, have you seen German drivers?
- snovv_crash 5y ago
  Maybe the stricter tests are a result of the bad driving, and not vice versa.
thatguy0900 5y ago
When I got my license I was advised to do it in nearby Kentucky, since they didnt have a driving portion of the test at all, all you had to do was a written quiz
- dtparr 5y ago
  When was that? KY requires a road test now. Also, it requires you to prove KY residency. I'm surprised people were able to get KY licenses without being residents before.
  - thatguy0900 5y ago
    About 9 years ago, and the people advising me were working off information older than that I'm sure.
    - dtparr 5y ago
      Yeah, after asking my earlier question, a quick google found the 2006 driver's manual which indicates you must be a KY resident, and discussed the road test. https://transportation.ky.gov/HighwaySafety/Documents/2006_ky_drivers_manual.pdf https://transportation.ky.gov/HighwaySafety/Documents/2006_k...
- hombre_fatal 5y ago
  In Texas, I got my license through a self-teaching avenue where my parents just had to sign off on a form that they taught me. IIRC the form had fields where they log the times they took me driving. All of my friends were doing these driver's ed classes after school and a bit jealous that I got my license without a single test.
selectodude 5y ago
That doesn't mean much because most states, including Texas, also have full reciprocity with Germany. There doesn't really seem to be any rhyme or reason to what states they deem "equivalent".
snovv_crash 5y ago
I don't think any US state requires you to take several full-day courses after getting your license, for snow and ice handling, as is required in Switzerland for example. Also the road tests I've seen are a joke compared to both the Swiss and South African tests, both of which I've gone through. Requirements to check your mirrors every 10 seconds. Check your blind spot before indicating, then again, before merging. Reverse alley docking and parallel parking in tight spaces. Emergency braking from a fixed speed within a certain distance. Of course, after years of practice this is how you should be driving. But almost nobody who doesn't explicitly practice for the test can actually pass. Whether a license is accepted reciprocally is more a political decision than based on test stringency.

QuarterReptile 5y ago

The interesting thing is that Maryland drivers are among the worst I've seen over a wider spectrum of factors. Sober California drivers seem pretty safe. Virginia drivers are miserable on interstates because they pass one another at 1-3mph differentials (I assume this is a response to the reputed harsh soeeding enforcement there) and are victims of often-wrong signage, but are otherwise uninteresting. South Carolina drivers cause dangerous situations by trying to give away their right of way. Maryland drivers aggressively fight back agaibst merges, change lanes erratically, and crash in a quarter inch of snow at shocking rates, despite the fact that their salt trucks have higher mass-flow-rates than their snow storms. The only drivers who stand out vs Maryland are in big military areas where there's a significant minority of people driving 20mph faster than traffic and merging erratically while doing so.

quartz 5y ago
I think it's more a Baltimore / DC area issue than a Maryland one. Baltimore consistently ranks dead last in best driver reports with DC right behind: https://www.allstate.com/americas-best-drivers/index.htm https://www.allstate.com/americas-best-drivers/index.htm The commuting structure of those cities is just awful and begging for road rage.
argiopetech 5y ago
Having just left VA after a year in residence, VA drivers pass at 1-3mph deltas because they're already doing 15mph+ over the speed limit. Perhaps enforcement is different in southern VA, but I'd estimate only seeing speed traps/vehicles pulled over once every 3-4 weeks. Maryland (and, to a lesser degree, New Jersey) drivers are legitimately terrible whenever you find them.
KSPAtlas 5y ago
I mean, have you seen German drivers?
snovv_crash 5y ago
Maybe the stricter tests are a result of the bad driving, and not vice versa.

thatguy0900 5y ago

When I got my license I was advised to do it in nearby Kentucky, since they didnt have a driving portion of the test at all, all you had to do was a written quiz

dtparr 5y ago
When was that? KY requires a road test now. Also, it requires you to prove KY residency. I'm surprised people were able to get KY licenses without being residents before.
- thatguy0900 5y ago
  About 9 years ago, and the people advising me were working off information older than that I'm sure.
  - dtparr 5y ago
    Yeah, after asking my earlier question, a quick google found the 2006 driver's manual which indicates you must be a KY resident, and discussed the road test. https://transportation.ky.gov/HighwaySafety/Documents/2006_ky_drivers_manual.pdf https://transportation.ky.gov/HighwaySafety/Documents/2006_k...
hombre_fatal 5y ago
In Texas, I got my license through a self-teaching avenue where my parents just had to sign off on a form that they taught me. IIRC the form had fields where they log the times they took me driving. All of my friends were doing these driver's ed classes after school and a bit jealous that I got my license without a single test.

selectodude 5y ago

That doesn't mean much because most states, including Texas, also have full reciprocity with Germany. There doesn't really seem to be any rhyme or reason to what states they deem "equivalent".

snovv_crash 5y ago

I don't think any US state requires you to take several full-day courses after getting your license, for snow and ice handling, as is required in Switzerland for example. Also the road tests I've seen are a joke compared to both the Swiss and South African tests, both of which I've gone through. Requirements to check your mirrors every 10 seconds. Check your blind spot before indicating, then again, before merging. Reverse alley docking and parallel parking in tight spaces. Emergency braking from a fixed speed within a certain distance. Of course, after years of practice this is how you should be driving. But almost nobody who doesn't explicitly practice for the test can actually pass. Whether a license is accepted reciprocally is more a political decision than based on test stringency.