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Salt is over twice as potent as alcohol, should salt be schedule 3? Salt is required for our body, yet is a deadly poison as well. Yes there is a big differenc

Salt is over twice as potent as alcohol, should salt be schedule 3? Salt is required for our body, yet is a deadly poison as well. Yes there is a big difference between water and alcohol and a big difference between alcohol and arsenic. Black and white thinking gets us nowhere, this is literal poison, that is not, no its a continuum of toxicity. You can ingest more alcohol than arsenic safely and you can ingest more water than that, they are each about an order of magnitude away from each other on the L50 scale: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose

rco8786 5y ago
Salt is also required for us to survive. Arsenic is a highly controlled substance. You're really choosing poor arguments. I am aware that it's a continuum, I am the one acknowledging that. Your argument of "yea well water can kill you too" is ignoring that and is entirely reductive and provides no real value to this conversation. It also ignores that we consume water directly, and only consume alcohol in very diluted forms...because our body literally hates it we have to disguise it going in or else we involuntarily vomit immediately. But sure, comparable... On the continuum of toxicity - alcohol is reasonably deadly and is very much a literal poison (as evidenced by the thousands of people who die from acute alcohol poisoning every year, not to even mention the thousands more who die as a result of long term usage) and provides no sustenance. As soon as you ingest it your body works to expel it from your body as quickly as it can. The damage it does to human cells is well documented. It is completely unnecessary to human life and even claims of some potential minor health benefits are easily crushed by the health benefits of say, eating an apple every day. And yes, there's certainly a deadly dosage of apples too.
- SigmundA 5y ago
  >entirely reductive and provides no real value Calling alcohol "literal poison" is the same, that was the point. >because our body literally hates it we have to disguise it going in or else we involuntarily vomit immediately. Eat pure undiluted Capsaicin and see what happens which is 10 times more deadly than arsenic yet we eat it for enjoyment all the time. >alcohol is reasonably deadly More people die from heart disease which sugar and fat is a contributor, same with skin cancer, too much sun, everything in moderation. "reasonably deadly" is your opinion fine, that is not a rigorous definition. We would be at a lot lower risk of health issues if we cut out everything we eat or do only for enjoyment that provides no sustenance that can't be argued.

rco8786 5y ago

Salt is also required for us to survive. Arsenic is a highly controlled substance. You're really choosing poor arguments. I am aware that it's a continuum, I am the one acknowledging that. Your argument of "yea well water can kill you too" is ignoring that and is entirely reductive and provides no real value to this conversation. It also ignores that we consume water directly, and only consume alcohol in very diluted forms...because our body literally hates it we have to disguise it going in or else we involuntarily vomit immediately. But sure, comparable... On the continuum of toxicity - alcohol is reasonably deadly and is very much a literal poison (as evidenced by the thousands of people who die from acute alcohol poisoning every year, not to even mention the thousands more who die as a result of long term usage) and provides no sustenance. As soon as you ingest it your body works to expel it from your body as quickly as it can. The damage it does to human cells is well documented. It is completely unnecessary to human life and even claims of some potential minor health benefits are easily crushed by the health benefits of say, eating an apple every day. And yes, there's certainly a deadly dosage of apples too.

SigmundA 5y ago
>entirely reductive and provides no real value Calling alcohol "literal poison" is the same, that was the point. >because our body literally hates it we have to disguise it going in or else we involuntarily vomit immediately. Eat pure undiluted Capsaicin and see what happens which is 10 times more deadly than arsenic yet we eat it for enjoyment all the time. >alcohol is reasonably deadly More people die from heart disease which sugar and fat is a contributor, same with skin cancer, too much sun, everything in moderation. "reasonably deadly" is your opinion fine, that is not a rigorous definition. We would be at a lot lower risk of health issues if we cut out everything we eat or do only for enjoyment that provides no sustenance that can't be argued.