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Jira used to have a self-hosted option that Atlassian is in the process of sunsetting. Stories like this highlight why it's a colossal mistake. If I can conne

Jira used to have a self-hosted option that Atlassian is in the process of sunsetting. Stories like this highlight why it's a colossal mistake. If I can connect to my work's VPN then it is extremely likely I will also be able to connect to their Jira site. Moving to cloud adds risk without adding benefit. https://www.atlassian.com/migration/assess/journey-to-cloud https://www.atlassian.com/migration/assess/journey-to-cloud

originalvichy 5y ago
Correction: it still has a self-hosted version, they just got rid of the cheapest tier which didn’t support clustering. They still sell ”data center” licenses which enable clustering but don’t force you to use it as you can run it on a single node. With this change they now only have one flavour of self hosted Jira/Confluence/Bitbucket and then the cloud. Only the classic server license is sunsetting.
- bombcar 5y ago
  The datacenter licenses start at eye watering and go up from there.
  - originalvichy 5y ago
    Not denying that at all. There is however some residual misunderstanding left from the time they announced the change towards server licensing. A lot of people who don't deal with administration of Atlassian products thought they were getting rid of the entire self-hosted suite.
    - bombcar 5y ago
      The server instances are licensed forever also, you just stop receiving security updates. Whether that's a risk people are willing to take is another question.
      - rst 5y ago
        ... for prior licensees. IIRC, they stopped selling new licenses last year.
- nonameiguess 5y ago
  Data Center licenses start at 500 users, so they did effectively kill self-hosting for small and mid-sized organizations that don't need 500 seats on their Jira license.
glintik 5y ago
It’s not a mistake. Mistake is how they run cloud infra.
- willis936 5y ago
  Cloud adds complexity and dependency. What does it buy? If your work depends on the internet or servicing the internet then it's reasonable, but otherwise development tools see no benefit to being hosted offsite. Since Jira is entirely development tools, it sees no benefit to being hosted offsite.
  - glintik 5y ago
    Cloud Jira saves a time and resources for many of developers. Also after removing self hosted version they can introduce true edge computing things and move Jira development to another level in terms of performance and scalability. And after this outage - reliability, I guess.

originalvichy 5y ago

Correction: it still has a self-hosted version, they just got rid of the cheapest tier which didn’t support clustering. They still sell ”data center” licenses which enable clustering but don’t force you to use it as you can run it on a single node. With this change they now only have one flavour of self hosted Jira/Confluence/Bitbucket and then the cloud. Only the classic server license is sunsetting.

bombcar 5y ago
The datacenter licenses start at eye watering and go up from there.
- originalvichy 5y ago
  Not denying that at all. There is however some residual misunderstanding left from the time they announced the change towards server licensing. A lot of people who don't deal with administration of Atlassian products thought they were getting rid of the entire self-hosted suite.
  - bombcar 5y ago
    The server instances are licensed forever also, you just stop receiving security updates. Whether that's a risk people are willing to take is another question.
    - rst 5y ago
      ... for prior licensees. IIRC, they stopped selling new licenses last year.
nonameiguess 5y ago
Data Center licenses start at 500 users, so they did effectively kill self-hosting for small and mid-sized organizations that don't need 500 seats on their Jira license.

glintik 5y ago

It’s not a mistake. Mistake is how they run cloud infra.

willis936 5y ago
Cloud adds complexity and dependency. What does it buy? If your work depends on the internet or servicing the internet then it's reasonable, but otherwise development tools see no benefit to being hosted offsite. Since Jira is entirely development tools, it sees no benefit to being hosted offsite.
- glintik 5y ago
  Cloud Jira saves a time and resources for many of developers. Also after removing self hosted version they can introduce true edge computing things and move Jira development to another level in terms of performance and scalability. And after this outage - reliability, I guess.