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I think all of that is fair, except perhaps for the characterization: A lot of sysadmins liked the djb way too. It's 2022 and I still prefer daemontools to syst
by geocar 5y ago
I think all of that is fair, except perhaps for the characterization: A lot of sysadmins liked the djb way too. It's 2022 and I still prefer daemontools to systemd and multilog to syslog; I chain lots of little unix programs instead of writing big honking super-servers all the time. I use cdb and fghack-like tricks a lot. And we still feel the pain of fhs...
And who knows, you might agree more now that he's changed some too: After ten years of qmail[1], his list of "distractions" is remarkably reflective, and he seems quite willing to admit some of the contortions he did (and put us users through!) to get privilege separation, or to annoy attackers (and the users!) didn't gain anything at all and cost much.
[1]: https://cr.yp.to/qmail/qmailsec-20071101.pdf https://cr.yp.to/qmail/qmailsec-20071101.pdf
- throwanem 5y agoThanks for linking that! There's a lot of good analysis in there, and it does indeed ameliorate my opinion somewhat.