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>And Musk's personal brand is much smaller than Trump' The world is larger than just the USA. Elon has an international following that probably outsizes what's

>And Musk's personal brand is much smaller than Trump' The world is larger than just the USA. Elon has an international following that probably outsizes what's left of Trumps crazy republicans.

rsynnott 5y ago
So, it's kind of horrifying, but so does Trump. Musk's fanbase is probably more Very Online than Trump's, but it's still a lot smaller.
- qeternity 4y ago
  Indeed. Musk is famous because he's rich. Trump is rich because he's famous.
  - rsynnott 4y ago
    Well, Trump is rich because he's famous because he was rich, more precisely.
whywhywhywhy 5y ago
I’m outside US and if you go outside the city you’ll be surprised how many people you encounter that were/still are fans of him, much more than people who know who Elon Musk is. Think it was easy to underestimate it when you’re in the city/tech bubbles.
RickJWagner 5y ago
- Jgrubb 5y ago
  Is it though? In this media environment there’s not a lot of subtlety and honest conversation between differing viewpoints, and the vast majority of people believe what they’re told so, is it really _our_ fault?
  - RickJWagner 4y ago
    It has to be. We have to be critical of our favorite news sources, and have to make intentional efforts to see the good in the other side. Otherwise, things will only get worse. I honestly believe this.
- deleted 5y ago
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- loudmax 5y ago
  There are lots of good people on the Republican side of the aisle. Liz Cheney, Bill Kristol, and everyone involved with the Lincoln Project. Trump's admiration of Vladimir Putin should make Republicans realize what America could have become if he had succeeded in defeating democracy on January 6th, 2021. That might restore the Republican party to former levels of honesty. And even sanity.
  - carlivar 5y ago
    Uhh you might want to look into Lincoln Project co-founder John Weaver. Not to mention the graft within the organization. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/lincoln-project-trump-fraud/ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/lincoln-project-t...
- antattack 5y ago
  What you said might have been true when Trump was first elected, in 2016. Claiming that Trump is for smaller government or anti corruption is ignoring what happened 2016 - 2022.
  - RickJWagner 4y ago

>And Musk's personal brand is much smaller than Trump' The world is larger than just the USA. Elon has an international following that probably outsizes what's left of Trumps crazy republicans.

rsynnott 5y ago

So, it's kind of horrifying, but so does Trump. Musk's fanbase is probably more Very Online than Trump's, but it's still a lot smaller.

qeternity 4y ago
Indeed. Musk is famous because he's rich. Trump is rich because he's famous.
- rsynnott 4y ago
  Well, Trump is rich because he's famous because he was rich, more precisely.

whywhywhywhy 5y ago

I’m outside US and if you go outside the city you’ll be surprised how many people you encounter that were/still are fans of him, much more than people who know who Elon Musk is. Think it was easy to underestimate it when you’re in the city/tech bubbles.

RickJWagner 5y ago

Jgrubb 5y ago
Is it though? In this media environment there’s not a lot of subtlety and honest conversation between differing viewpoints, and the vast majority of people believe what they’re told so, is it really _our_ fault?
- RickJWagner 4y ago
  It has to be. We have to be critical of our favorite news sources, and have to make intentional efforts to see the good in the other side. Otherwise, things will only get worse. I honestly believe this.
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loudmax 5y ago
There are lots of good people on the Republican side of the aisle. Liz Cheney, Bill Kristol, and everyone involved with the Lincoln Project. Trump's admiration of Vladimir Putin should make Republicans realize what America could have become if he had succeeded in defeating democracy on January 6th, 2021. That might restore the Republican party to former levels of honesty. And even sanity.
- carlivar 5y ago
  Uhh you might want to look into Lincoln Project co-founder John Weaver. Not to mention the graft within the organization. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/lincoln-project-trump-fraud/ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/lincoln-project-t...
antattack 5y ago
What you said might have been true when Trump was first elected, in 2016. Claiming that Trump is for smaller government or anti corruption is ignoring what happened 2016 - 2022.
- RickJWagner 4y ago