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I find the explanation offered by Cruise amusing: the car supposedly "figured out" that it is in a dangerous spot to be pulled over and "tried to move to a bett
by surgi 4y ago
I find the explanation offered by Cruise amusing: the car supposedly "figured out" that it is in a dangerous spot to be pulled over and "tried to move to a better one" (extremely complex behavior), while the actual reason for the car being pulled over was not having its headlights on (seemingly a relatively simple bug).
- cdot2 4y agoIf a person did this they'd probably be in some serious trouble
- dgellow 4y agoIs it an euphemism for dead? /s
- cdot2 4y agono but you'd probably be arrested
- DennisP 4y agoNot necessarily, if you make your intentions clear, e.g. by slowing down and putting your hazards on.
- alisonkisk 4y ago
- sseagull 4y agoWell, most of the time. If the cop feels like it, they can make you have a very bad time. https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/7645474002 https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/7645474002 “An Arkansas woman says she had no safe place to pull over in July 2020 when a state trooper tried to stop her for speeding, so she turned on her hazard lights and slowed down. Moments later, the officer rammed her vehicle, causing it to flip over and injuring the woman”
- virgilp 4y agoI think I saw that video - don't get me wrong, the officer was definitely an asshole; but I can see why he was annoyed, there was in fact plenty of space &time for her to pull over.
- dsr_ 4y agoRemind us how what the police officer did wasn't vehicular assault and potentially homicide. Remind us how physical injury is a reasonable response to a traffic violation.
- virgilp 4y agoI don't want to defend him, what he did was *wrong*. He should absolutely face consequences for gross over-reaction. I never said his response was reasonable given the circumstances. But the way the story was presented was extremely biased. I believe the US cops are trained to actually use the "pit" maneuver to stop offenders who otherwise refuse to stop. In this case, he should've known better - but one can totally see how an asshole cop would interpret the situation as "lady is refusing to stop, I need to compel her to do so". I guess what I'm saying is that it wasn't a totally random act of unprovoked cop violence.
- dsr_ 4y agoI think that it doesn't matter whether it was 'provoked' or not: the police should be professionals who prioritize public safety above all else, and this is a total failure.
- virgilp 4y agoOk, let me retry: > An Arkansas woman says she had no safe place to pull over in July 2020 The Arkansas woman was lying. That's it. I was not defending the cop, and never did I claim he was behaving professionally. Still. The Arkansas woman was lying. She had plenty of safe space to pull over. Seemed relevant to me.
- iso1210 4y agoDepends on your skin color
- nullc 4y ago
- solarhoma 4y agoA comment like this has no place on HN.
- nullc 4y agoI apologize for creating offense.
- JasonFruit 4y agoGallows humor like this always has a place.
- solarhoma 4y agoIt was a low effort comment. If you want low effort you go to Reddit. HN has made a name for itself as being a place for rational thought with good, honest, and respectable discussion. Just my opinion of the site though.
- ironmagma 4y agoWhy amusing? Sounds about right from what I know about Cruise cars. (Source/disclaimer: I worked at Cruise many moons ago.)
- surgi 4y agoAmusement coming purely from the disproportionality of complexity of what worked correctly and what failed.
- jeffbee 4y agoPerhaps the lights are not even inside the loop of the Cruise hardware and software. They may rely on the automatic lights that GM provides from the factory. Do they even have visible light optical cameras in their system?