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Usually some rich old guy won't shoot at cops, when they come knocking at the door. Those people use lawyers, not guns.

ZeroGravitas 5y ago
"No Knock" usually implies that they don't announce that they are police before they kick the door down. I'm not sure I could confidently say that a rich person is less likely to draw a gun when someone kicks their door down in the middle of the night. Maybe they are more likely to have a panic room, or just long corridors that provide enough time for the situation to become clear before they have a gun held in their face by someone claiming to be the FBI.
- ajsnigrutin 5y ago
  I mean... let's be real... a rich person will answer the knock, follow the police peacefully to the police car, and the only thing they'll say and do is "i want my lawyer"
  - ZeroGravitas 5y ago
    White collar criminals shredding documents and wiping hard drives is not unknown. The purpose of a no knock raid is, in theory at least, to stop people destroying evidence. They only incidentally turn into shootouts, that's not what they're intended for.
    - ajsnigrutin 5y ago
      In modern times.... with hard drive encryption by default, and mostly paperless work, any sort of criminal, who can afford a house like that, doesn't need to run into the office, and start the shredder, while the police are knocking on the door.
spacemanmatt 5y ago
Statistically, they don't prosecute wealthy people much to start with.
- ajsnigrutin 5y ago
  Wealthy people also do less violent crime, and use the many loopholes instead of directly stealing or doing other crime. Even if they get caught, they usually just get summoned to court by mail, and most of them don't need a swat team because they're not violent. There was an interview with the Cops (tv show) producers, where they asked them why they show mostly black and poor white guys on the show, and not some white collar workers... and they said something along the lines of "get me a middle manager, that'll tear his shirt off and start fighting the police, and we'll record that"... Arrest of rich people usually go along the lines of the rich person saying "i want my lawyer" and pecefully following the police to the station.
  - croes 5y ago
    Define violence. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/ferrero-says-knew-kinder-egg-23623938 https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/ferrero-says-knew... Things like this are violence too. The rich most of the time don't go to jail and if it's a different kind of jail. So they don't fight the police because they know it would make jail time more likely. If they would have the same jail risk as the poor they would fight and run like the poor.
- OgAstorga 5y ago
  Statistically, there is not much wealthy people.
  - spacemanmatt 5y ago
    There are easily enough to law enforcement attention disparities
sumedh 5y ago
They wont be shooting, they are probably busy shredding all the financial documents.
- ajsnigrutin 5y ago
  That they keep at home? And a shredder fast enough, that the police most break down the door without knocking?
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"No Knock" usually implies that they don't announce that they are police before they kick the door down. I'm not sure I could confidently say that a rich person is less likely to draw a gun when someone kicks their door down in the middle of the night. Maybe they are more likely to have a panic room, or just long corridors that provide enough time for the situation to become clear before they have a gun held in their face by someone claiming to be the FBI.

ajsnigrutin 5y ago
I mean... let's be real... a rich person will answer the knock, follow the police peacefully to the police car, and the only thing they'll say and do is "i want my lawyer"
- ZeroGravitas 5y ago
  White collar criminals shredding documents and wiping hard drives is not unknown. The purpose of a no knock raid is, in theory at least, to stop people destroying evidence. They only incidentally turn into shootouts, that's not what they're intended for.
  - ajsnigrutin 5y ago
    In modern times.... with hard drive encryption by default, and mostly paperless work, any sort of criminal, who can afford a house like that, doesn't need to run into the office, and start the shredder, while the police are knocking on the door.

spacemanmatt 5y ago

Statistically, they don't prosecute wealthy people much to start with.

ajsnigrutin 5y ago
Wealthy people also do less violent crime, and use the many loopholes instead of directly stealing or doing other crime. Even if they get caught, they usually just get summoned to court by mail, and most of them don't need a swat team because they're not violent. There was an interview with the Cops (tv show) producers, where they asked them why they show mostly black and poor white guys on the show, and not some white collar workers... and they said something along the lines of "get me a middle manager, that'll tear his shirt off and start fighting the police, and we'll record that"... Arrest of rich people usually go along the lines of the rich person saying "i want my lawyer" and pecefully following the police to the station.
- croes 5y ago
  Define violence. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/ferrero-says-knew-kinder-egg-23623938 https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/ferrero-says-knew... Things like this are violence too. The rich most of the time don't go to jail and if it's a different kind of jail. So they don't fight the police because they know it would make jail time more likely. If they would have the same jail risk as the poor they would fight and run like the poor.
OgAstorga 5y ago
Statistically, there is not much wealthy people.
- spacemanmatt 5y ago
  There are easily enough to law enforcement attention disparities

sumedh 5y ago

They wont be shooting, they are probably busy shredding all the financial documents.

ajsnigrutin 5y ago
That they keep at home? And a shredder fast enough, that the police most break down the door without knocking?

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