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The problem is that Smartphone/Attention economy is made to be addictive. In my opinion and observation, many adults, myself included, are overusing smartphones

The problem is that Smartphone/Attention economy is made to be addictive. In my opinion and observation, many adults, myself included, are overusing smartphones/social media, often mindlessly scrolling through stuff to "kill time", losing focus on more important tasks. I'm just saying this stuff is dangerous even to adults, and it takes quite some discipline to manage. That is why I am unsure that "education" in that field is enough. And I say this as an adult who often breaks his own set time limits for mobile usage.

teekert 5y ago
I agree with you, I do more useless things with my phone than I'd want. But is limiting the solution? When they become adults, they can do what they want, what would be the best way to teach them healthy habits? I'm not convinced keeping the kids away from phones as long as possible it THE solution (maybe part of it?) We keep them away from heroine, from alcohol to a degree (although for me that started at 14-15). Maybe the state should put out stronger advice and forbid them in schools perhaps... But we are also addicts, and I got my first phone at 17 (it was this one [0], still, sms could be pretty addictive, not much compared to what can be done now). So that didn't really work. Maybe what we really see as problematic will become normal over time? I mean, looking at a small screen is not nice, but if it's in your glasses or VR? At least it is less bad for posture and eyes. It will perhaps be more addictive even, so immersive... Maybe overtime we'll get to evolutionary pressures even, you can get most things you want in VR except food and procreation... Or can we, man where are we going... [0]: https://www.gsmchoice.com/en/catalogue/ericsson/gf768/gallery/#2 https://www.gsmchoice.com/en/catalogue/ericsson/gf768/galler...
- littlecranky67 5y ago
  I don't have kids, but I think limiting would be a good thing, or at least limit Whatsapp/Fortnite whatever and promote learning apps (and nothing with dark/addictive patterns). I think it is very important as a child to learn the benefits of long-term gratification vs. short-term. I.e. learn an instrument, language, sport, master any skill etc. takes time and dedication and will only pay off later in life. Smartphones often only chase instant/short-term gratification. Adults like us had their fair share of learning in our younger years (school, maybe uni or job training) and smartphones or the social media were invented later.

teekert 5y ago

I agree with you, I do more useless things with my phone than I'd want. But is limiting the solution? When they become adults, they can do what they want, what would be the best way to teach them healthy habits? I'm not convinced keeping the kids away from phones as long as possible it THE solution (maybe part of it?) We keep them away from heroine, from alcohol to a degree (although for me that started at 14-15). Maybe the state should put out stronger advice and forbid them in schools perhaps... But we are also addicts, and I got my first phone at 17 (it was this one [0], still, sms could be pretty addictive, not much compared to what can be done now). So that didn't really work. Maybe what we really see as problematic will become normal over time? I mean, looking at a small screen is not nice, but if it's in your glasses or VR? At least it is less bad for posture and eyes. It will perhaps be more addictive even, so immersive... Maybe overtime we'll get to evolutionary pressures even, you can get most things you want in VR except food and procreation... Or can we, man where are we going... [0]: https://www.gsmchoice.com/en/catalogue/ericsson/gf768/gallery/#2 https://www.gsmchoice.com/en/catalogue/ericsson/gf768/galler...

littlecranky67 5y ago
I don't have kids, but I think limiting would be a good thing, or at least limit Whatsapp/Fortnite whatever and promote learning apps (and nothing with dark/addictive patterns). I think it is very important as a child to learn the benefits of long-term gratification vs. short-term. I.e. learn an instrument, language, sport, master any skill etc. takes time and dedication and will only pay off later in life. Smartphones often only chase instant/short-term gratification. Adults like us had their fair share of learning in our younger years (school, maybe uni or job training) and smartphones or the social media were invented later.