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In Criminalizing Error, We Are Doomed to Repeat Our Mistakes
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- isitmadeofglass 5y agoNot all errors are criminal negligence, but those that are certainly need to be punished just as this. The methods and practices we put in places in workplaces like this are there for a reason. And it’s simply not acceptable at any levels to apologize killing someone by accident by saying “Oh but the IT system has problems, so we’ve decided to ignore safety procedures to move faster” And this will certainly make hospitals safer.
- CogitoCogito 5y ago> Not all errors are criminal negligence, but those that are certainly need to be punished just as this. > The methods and practices we put in places in workplaces like this are there for a reason. And it’s simply not acceptable at any levels to apologize killing someone by accident by saying “Oh but the IT system has problems, so we’ve decided to ignore safety procedures to move faster” > And this will certainly make hospitals safer. To me it seems like this will make hospitals less safe. The nurse seems to have made a mistake which the hospital's system essentially guaranteed eventually would occur. If it was criminal negligence it was criminal negligence by the hospital. By focusing on the nurse you're decreasing the incentive for the hospital to fix its flawed processes. If the nurse should be prosecuted for negligence it seems the same should be true of basically every person up the chain above the nurse as well.
- 7174n6 5y agoWhat about policing? From the video, it is clear that Kim Potter clearly made a mistake when she pulled her gun instead of taser. Where do you draw the line? Are some fatal mistakes acceptable while others are not simply because of the societal opinion of the job?
- giraffe_lady 5y agoYes different powers have different considerations how could it be otherwise? For the police specifically, they have willingly entered a role that carries risks of violence, ostensibly in the name of public safety. They have training to understand and mitigate those risks. And so the burden on them to prevent violence should be very high. Similarly, a volunteer soldier who kills an adversary in war may not be culpable for murder but they can't plausibly claim self defense either. The expectations and burdens that people carry highly depend on their powers and the decisions that led them there. The mistake potter made wasn't drawing the taser instead of the gun. It was in believing that, if one of them was to get fucked up, she had the right to make it the other guy. She was the only one of them that had consented to violence, by joining the police force.
- 7174n6 5y agoAnd nurses do not have advanced training? And the burden on them to prevent death isn't very high? And they haven't made the choice to become nurses...with the purpose of maintaining life? Your argument falls apart.
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- nitwit005 5y agoNot everything is part of some sort of regulated environment like a hospital. There isn't always some set of safety rules or protocols to fix. Sometimes it's just people being knowingly dangerous and, unsurprisingly, hurting people as a consequence.