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> it didn't ban absentee voting Right, it just makes it significantly more difficult, which means more people are required to vote in person. > There are expl

> it didn't ban absentee voting Right, it just makes it significantly more difficult, which means more people are required to vote in person. > There are explicit provisions for people without driver's licenses in it, Right, which you need to be familiar with and be able to assert your rights about. Here's three questions: 1. All else equal, will this law decrease turnout by predominantly black working class voters? 2. Did the bills drafters intend this? Three answers to both of those are "yes". Which brings up the third question: why isn't that discriminatory?

josephcsible 5y ago
> Right, which you need to be familiar with and be able to assert your rights about. Being allowed to vote without an ID isn't good enough, because some people might not know it's allowed? And why would you need to "assert" your rights? If this bill were to pass, wouldn't pollworkers be aware of the new set of rules? > 1. All else equal, will this law decrease turnout by predominantly black working class voters? > 2. Did the bills drafters intend this? > Three answers to both of those are "yes". Which brings up the third question: why isn't that discriminatory? If the answer to both of those questions were actually yes, then I'd agree that the bill were discriminatory. But you've just asserted the answer is yes without providing evidence, and I don't agree with your assertion.
- joshuamorton 5y ago
  > If this bill were to pass, wouldn't pollworkers be aware of the new set of rules? That depends on your race. The fun thing about arbitrary and unnecessary restrictions like this is that they can be enforced only against some people, something that the VRA explicitly prevented at the policy level until it was gutted. The answer to the first is yes, policies like these result in voter suppression that has to be countered by additional gotv efforts for equivalent turnout (among predominantly black, working class, democrat voters). The answer to the second is also yes. The Republican legislators aren't dumb. The theory that the election was "stolen" by the Dems, which led to this law is functionally that too many Democrats voted. And the point of this law is to prevent that, under the guise of blocking "illegitimate" (working class black democratic) voters.

josephcsible 5y ago

> Right, which you need to be familiar with and be able to assert your rights about. Being allowed to vote without an ID isn't good enough, because some people might not know it's allowed? And why would you need to "assert" your rights? If this bill were to pass, wouldn't pollworkers be aware of the new set of rules? > 1. All else equal, will this law decrease turnout by predominantly black working class voters? > 2. Did the bills drafters intend this? > Three answers to both of those are "yes". Which brings up the third question: why isn't that discriminatory? If the answer to both of those questions were actually yes, then I'd agree that the bill were discriminatory. But you've just asserted the answer is yes without providing evidence, and I don't agree with your assertion.

joshuamorton 5y ago
> If this bill were to pass, wouldn't pollworkers be aware of the new set of rules? That depends on your race. The fun thing about arbitrary and unnecessary restrictions like this is that they can be enforced only against some people, something that the VRA explicitly prevented at the policy level until it was gutted. The answer to the first is yes, policies like these result in voter suppression that has to be countered by additional gotv efforts for equivalent turnout (among predominantly black, working class, democrat voters). The answer to the second is also yes. The Republican legislators aren't dumb. The theory that the election was "stolen" by the Dems, which led to this law is functionally that too many Democrats voted. And the point of this law is to prevent that, under the guise of blocking "illegitimate" (working class black democratic) voters.