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> If the teacher really believes the parent is a danger to their children, they have a process they can follow to get that judgment checked by others, and if ne

by mlyle 5y ago

> If the teacher really believes the parent is a danger to their children, they have a process they can follow to get that judgment checked by others, and if necessary acted on. Surely there's some kind of continuum between "needs to be immediately removed from the home by the state, with all evidence in hand to demonstrate this" and "will be supportive and react reasonably to something the student is expressing at school." Teachers routinely keep confidences for their kids. We hear about doubts in parents politics, doubts in the choices that have been made for their future, etc. We are expected to help kids express their own opinions and keep those confidences. Outing some trans kids is going to get them thrown out on the street by their parents, beaten, or worse. That's a guaranteed consequence of this law. I think you know that, deep down.

teakettle42 5y ago
You seem to believe your views preempt those of your students’ parents. You are exactly the type of educator this law is intended to target — quite necessarily, as your comments demonstrate. > We are expected to help kids express their own opinions and keep those confidences. You should not be keeping secrets from students’ parents in the first place. You are not the parent; it is not your call. > Outing some trans kids is going to get them thrown out on the street by their parents, beaten, or worse. Actual abuse is illegal. Report it through proper channels. You do not get to usurp parental authority simply because you think some parents won’t agree with your politics.
- mlyle 5y ago
  > You seem to believe your views preempt those of your students’ parents. I'm a parent too. I believe that my kids should be able to be their own people at school. I don't know everything that happens with them there. > You are exactly the type of educator this law is intended to target I don't work for a government entity. But nice try at being vaguely menacing. > You should not be keeping secrets from students’ parents in the first place. I'm just curious if this is what you really think. Anything that happens at school-- anything kids express-- should be rolled up in journal form and provided to the parent? Or is there any role for discretion? > Actual abuse is illegal. Report it through proper channels. Waiting for actual harm sounds bad. And there's plenty of harm that's legal or nearly so: if they want to force the kid to leave home on their 18th birthday because of what I told them, that still sucks.

by mlyle 5y ago

teakettle42 5y ago

You seem to believe your views preempt those of your students’ parents. You are exactly the type of educator this law is intended to target — quite necessarily, as your comments demonstrate. > We are expected to help kids express their own opinions and keep those confidences. You should not be keeping secrets from students’ parents in the first place. You are not the parent; it is not your call. > Outing some trans kids is going to get them thrown out on the street by their parents, beaten, or worse. Actual abuse is illegal. Report it through proper channels. You do not get to usurp parental authority simply because you think some parents won’t agree with your politics.

mlyle 5y ago
> You seem to believe your views preempt those of your students’ parents. I'm a parent too. I believe that my kids should be able to be their own people at school. I don't know everything that happens with them there. > You are exactly the type of educator this law is intended to target I don't work for a government entity. But nice try at being vaguely menacing. > You should not be keeping secrets from students’ parents in the first place. I'm just curious if this is what you really think. Anything that happens at school-- anything kids express-- should be rolled up in journal form and provided to the parent? Or is there any role for discretion? > Actual abuse is illegal. Report it through proper channels. Waiting for actual harm sounds bad. And there's plenty of harm that's legal or nearly so: if they want to force the kid to leave home on their 18th birthday because of what I told them, that still sucks.