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I had this "conversation" with my neighbor (it was more like me being yelled at) It kind of blew my mind they didnt care about noise interruptions at all hours

by tayo42 5y ago

I had this "conversation" with my neighbor (it was more like me being yelled at) It kind of blew my mind they didnt care about noise interruptions at all hours and told me its my problem. Like maybe if you got a full night of sleep you wouldn't be so angry? I guess this study supports that. The noise in my current apartment is endless, car alarms, screaming and crying kids along with their loud toys, idling cars, the loudest ice cream truck idles for hours for some reason here, rancheras and bass from cars, instruments being practiced, the leaf blowers are horrible. it really sucks. and it feels like no one cares, but it feels so stressful, like physically too. and out doors is being ruined too. mostly by portable music. What i really dont understand is people identifying with being loud. i spent a couple weeks in puerto rico and was surprised that some people seemed to be loud on purpose.

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lom 5y ago
I can’t speak about puerto rico, but in another latin american country i’ve spent a lot of time in it’s very common for every small store to have a loudspeaker and blast (imo shitty) music from 10 to 5. That isn’t even bad compared to the many discos right next to each other than play music as loud as possible to not be dwarfed by their neighbor. Whenever I’m in a Western city I’m grateful for how much more quiet it is (relatively anyways), even with greater density and size.
- tayo42 5y ago
  Hesitate to say it, but I think a lot of my current noise issues are because I moved into an immigrant Mexican community without realizing it. While I'm posting things that might sound bad, I think I've noticed a correlation with more noise and lower economic class people
  - artificial 5y ago
    How’s the honking? I’ve moved around quite a bit and shared some of your experience from the sound of it.
  - ngc248 5y ago
    >>> I think I've noticed a correlation with more noise and lower economic class people This is true and it is true all over the world.
irrational 5y ago
One thing I remember from living in Puerto Rico for a few years was the vans with huge loudspeakers on top that would go around blaring political messages. This was 30 years ago, so maybe it is different now. I’m so thankful that kind of thing doesn’t fly on the mainland.
- brimble 5y ago
  This used to be a more common thing, including on the mainland. It's still depicted in TV and film, sometimes. There's a (probably intentionally goofily anachronistic) political ad van featured in Steven Universe, for instance. There's also one (in the "present day", that is, 1985) in Back to the Future.
  - bombcar 5y ago
    There's the scene from Blues Brothers where they promote their final concert; that's true to life from the time. Puerto Rico and much of Latin America is basically how the USA itself was in the 50s, so you get more of that. Blues Brothers also has an example of the elevated rumbling by every second of the night.
grapeskin 5y ago
The absolute best thing about leaving the US several years ago is the silence. I can go to bed every night knowing some random guy won't decide 3 AM on a Wednesday morning is the best day to crank up the bass to max and start a party. I can sleep knowing some old guy isn't going to compensate for his masculinity by revving up his modded motorcycle at 4:30 AM everyday. I can sleep knowing people aren't going to start screaming and fighting in the middle of the street at 11:30 PM and again at 7 AM, even in a nice neighborhood. I can relax and not have to hear someone blasting the action movies and advertisements from their TV from 6 AM to 10 PM every single day. I can take a bus and not be surrounded by people shouting at someone on speakerphone, and needing to repeat their every statement several times because 5 other people are doing the same thing. And yeah. People who blast music while outside, especially in natural parks, are assholes without exception. I like that I can hike here and it's absolute silence, every single time.
- el_benhameen 5y ago
  Sounds blissful. Where did you move, if you don’t mind me asking?
- bogomipz 5y ago
  Can you say where you relocated to that provides this?
- hinkley 5y ago
  During my flirtation with buddhism it came up quite often how inured some people are to constant noise. Everyone had stories of people who simply could not cope with a silent retreat. Some people who are constantly 'on' are avoiding sitting with their own thoughts, in some cases due to treatable psychological conditions. The noise or the activity keeps them from being alone with themselves and sitting in a silent space, all of their intrusive thoughts hit like a ton of bricks and they can't even. I wonder how much of the noise around us is invited rather than simply tolerated or excused.
- spacexsucks 5y ago
  Yes. Shut your music speaker off in the park and on the trail or wear headphones. That should be banned
kdmccormick 5y ago
> instruments being practiced As a musician... although I understand that, in the end, instrument practice is still noise, it hurts to see this listed among the rest of your items. Last year, I had to move out of an apartment complex because our neighbors would not tolerate even 30 minutes of practice a day (in spite of the ~2 daily hours of lawn care racket, but whatever) and complained to building management. I get that listening to me repetitously work out a song or musical phrase for an hour might not be pleasant... but is it really as bad as noise from motorcycles, lawnmowers, and car alarms? For those who enjoy hearing their own music but still feel this way: how do you expect new musicians to come into existence, new music to be made? Is it not a racket worth its trouble? Is there any solace in knowing that the person making such noise is doing so with the specific goal of creating enjoyable noise in the future? These are genuine questions. I want to practice a lot, but I hate noise pollution myself and don't want to be a nusiance to others.
- savanaly 5y ago
  I was a trumpet player for years in high school and college, practiced all the time at home and so did my brother so I experienced the situation from both sides. My opinion now is that it is irresponsible to make playing an instrument your hobby or profession (an instrument that can't avoid making noise that will bother others) unless you have access to an appropriate practice space. There are churches, music schools, music stores that will rent out space. Yes it sucks but that's the breaks. Either make sure you have access or don't pick up that trumpet/violin/tuba. Or switch it out for a keyboard (which can be electronic and practiced with earphones in) or guitar. This is what I did in my young adult years after I had put down the trumpet and was playing piano as a hobby while living on my own in an apartment.
  - wildrhythms 5y ago
    Trumpet fortunately is one of the few instruments that you can reasonably practice with a practice mute. I have the Up Mute and it works amazingly with only a little backpressure, no complaints from any neighbors. Woodwinds are much more difficult to keep quiet though.
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by tayo42 5y ago

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lom 5y ago

I can’t speak about puerto rico, but in another latin american country i’ve spent a lot of time in it’s very common for every small store to have a loudspeaker and blast (imo shitty) music from 10 to 5. That isn’t even bad compared to the many discos right next to each other than play music as loud as possible to not be dwarfed by their neighbor. Whenever I’m in a Western city I’m grateful for how much more quiet it is (relatively anyways), even with greater density and size.

tayo42 5y ago
Hesitate to say it, but I think a lot of my current noise issues are because I moved into an immigrant Mexican community without realizing it. While I'm posting things that might sound bad, I think I've noticed a correlation with more noise and lower economic class people
- artificial 5y ago
  How’s the honking? I’ve moved around quite a bit and shared some of your experience from the sound of it.
- ngc248 5y ago
  >>> I think I've noticed a correlation with more noise and lower economic class people This is true and it is true all over the world.

irrational 5y ago

One thing I remember from living in Puerto Rico for a few years was the vans with huge loudspeakers on top that would go around blaring political messages. This was 30 years ago, so maybe it is different now. I’m so thankful that kind of thing doesn’t fly on the mainland.

brimble 5y ago
This used to be a more common thing, including on the mainland. It's still depicted in TV and film, sometimes. There's a (probably intentionally goofily anachronistic) political ad van featured in Steven Universe, for instance. There's also one (in the "present day", that is, 1985) in Back to the Future.
- bombcar 5y ago
  There's the scene from Blues Brothers where they promote their final concert; that's true to life from the time. Puerto Rico and much of Latin America is basically how the USA itself was in the 50s, so you get more of that. Blues Brothers also has an example of the elevated rumbling by every second of the night.

grapeskin 5y ago

The absolute best thing about leaving the US several years ago is the silence. I can go to bed every night knowing some random guy won't decide 3 AM on a Wednesday morning is the best day to crank up the bass to max and start a party. I can sleep knowing some old guy isn't going to compensate for his masculinity by revving up his modded motorcycle at 4:30 AM everyday. I can sleep knowing people aren't going to start screaming and fighting in the middle of the street at 11:30 PM and again at 7 AM, even in a nice neighborhood. I can relax and not have to hear someone blasting the action movies and advertisements from their TV from 6 AM to 10 PM every single day. I can take a bus and not be surrounded by people shouting at someone on speakerphone, and needing to repeat their every statement several times because 5 other people are doing the same thing. And yeah. People who blast music while outside, especially in natural parks, are assholes without exception. I like that I can hike here and it's absolute silence, every single time.

el_benhameen 5y ago
Sounds blissful. Where did you move, if you don’t mind me asking?
bogomipz 5y ago
Can you say where you relocated to that provides this?
hinkley 5y ago
During my flirtation with buddhism it came up quite often how inured some people are to constant noise. Everyone had stories of people who simply could not cope with a silent retreat. Some people who are constantly 'on' are avoiding sitting with their own thoughts, in some cases due to treatable psychological conditions. The noise or the activity keeps them from being alone with themselves and sitting in a silent space, all of their intrusive thoughts hit like a ton of bricks and they can't even. I wonder how much of the noise around us is invited rather than simply tolerated or excused.
spacexsucks 5y ago
Yes. Shut your music speaker off in the park and on the trail or wear headphones. That should be banned

kdmccormick 5y ago

> instruments being practiced As a musician... although I understand that, in the end, instrument practice is still noise, it hurts to see this listed among the rest of your items. Last year, I had to move out of an apartment complex because our neighbors would not tolerate even 30 minutes of practice a day (in spite of the ~2 daily hours of lawn care racket, but whatever) and complained to building management. I get that listening to me repetitously work out a song or musical phrase for an hour might not be pleasant... but is it really as bad as noise from motorcycles, lawnmowers, and car alarms? For those who enjoy hearing their own music but still feel this way: how do you expect new musicians to come into existence, new music to be made? Is it not a racket worth its trouble? Is there any solace in knowing that the person making such noise is doing so with the specific goal of creating enjoyable noise in the future? These are genuine questions. I want to practice a lot, but I hate noise pollution myself and don't want to be a nusiance to others.

savanaly 5y ago
I was a trumpet player for years in high school and college, practiced all the time at home and so did my brother so I experienced the situation from both sides. My opinion now is that it is irresponsible to make playing an instrument your hobby or profession (an instrument that can't avoid making noise that will bother others) unless you have access to an appropriate practice space. There are churches, music schools, music stores that will rent out space. Yes it sucks but that's the breaks. Either make sure you have access or don't pick up that trumpet/violin/tuba. Or switch it out for a keyboard (which can be electronic and practiced with earphones in) or guitar. This is what I did in my young adult years after I had put down the trumpet and was playing piano as a hobby while living on my own in an apartment.
- wildrhythms 5y ago
  Trumpet fortunately is one of the few instruments that you can reasonably practice with a practice mute. I have the Up Mute and it works amazingly with only a little backpressure, no complaints from any neighbors. Woodwinds are much more difficult to keep quiet though.
- 5y ago