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> It's not "any computer you choose", but any desktop or laptop with hardware components that are supported. Did you know Windows Server 2008 doesn't have drive

> It's not "any computer you choose", but any desktop or laptop with hardware components that are supported. Did you know Windows Server 2008 doesn't have drivers for early Intel Gigabit Server NICs, so you can't run that OS on an unsupported computer? Just as you can't run Windows on "any computer you choose", only on ones with supported hardware, it's the same thing with OS X. Nobody said that Windows was open source or could run on any computer. However, as I type in a Windows vm running on a computer assembled from commodity hardware, I can honestly say that are certainly a much larger number of choices, since neither of those are options with OS X. The Hackintosh stuff is not really relevant either as a) it is not open source, and b) violates the EULA of OS X. I won't go so far as to say it's "illegal" but I don't see any overriding moral reason to violate Apple's wishes here. "You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so." http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf

tjogin 15y ago
Open Source does not imply platform independence.
Terretta 15y ago
> However, as I type in a Windows vm running on a computer assembled from commodity hardware, I can honestly say that are certainly a much larger number of choices, since neither of those are options with OS X. On the contrary, running in a VM, and running in a VM on a computer assembled from commodity hardware, are both certainly options with OS X. Running both server and desktop OS X in a VM is now even allowed in the EULA, which previously only authorized virtualizing OS X Server. If you want to run it in a VM under Windows 7 (granted, not in the EULA), here's a link: Install OS X Snow Leopard in VMware Windows 7 http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-install-os-x-snow-leopard-in-vmware-windows-7-9140301/ http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-install-os-x-snow-leopard-i...
- efsavage 15y ago
  I stand partially corrected, you can apparently run OS X in a VM, but only on an OS X machine you buy from Apple. "to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already running the Apple Software" So no, unless I missed something, you cannot run it in VMWare Workstation, and I still cannot run it on the $1800 (including Win 7 Pro) box I put together that has better specs than a $4500+ Mac Pro.
  - bjtitus 15y ago
    You do realize that not including excess drivers for components that Apple doesn't use in its own hardware is part of that "better user experience" talked about above... You may disagree with Apple's approach of bundling hardware and software but you would be foolish to expect a company taking that route to produce software that runs on other devices. Notice that the cheapest Windows 7 option is $120 while Lion is $20. Apple is not selling software to run on other devices. They are selling devices with their software. I hope you understand the difference between a hardware and software company.
  - Terretta 15y ago
    On the contrary, you certainly can. This is one of those pedantic situations where the difference between "can" (have the ability to) and "may" (have permission to) becomes relevant. You absolutely can run it in VMWare Workstation, as the link tells you how, on Windows 7, as the link tells you how. You may not be permitted (depends on your jurisdiction and legality of the EULA), but you can.

tjogin 15y ago

Open Source does not imply platform independence.

Terretta 15y ago

> However, as I type in a Windows vm running on a computer assembled from commodity hardware, I can honestly say that are certainly a much larger number of choices, since neither of those are options with OS X. On the contrary, running in a VM, and running in a VM on a computer assembled from commodity hardware, are both certainly options with OS X. Running both server and desktop OS X in a VM is now even allowed in the EULA, which previously only authorized virtualizing OS X Server. If you want to run it in a VM under Windows 7 (granted, not in the EULA), here's a link: Install OS X Snow Leopard in VMware Windows 7 http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-install-os-x-snow-leopard-in-vmware-windows-7-9140301/ http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-install-os-x-snow-leopard-i...

efsavage 15y ago
I stand partially corrected, you can apparently run OS X in a VM, but only on an OS X machine you buy from Apple. "to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already running the Apple Software" So no, unless I missed something, you cannot run it in VMWare Workstation, and I still cannot run it on the $1800 (including Win 7 Pro) box I put together that has better specs than a $4500+ Mac Pro.
- bjtitus 15y ago
  You do realize that not including excess drivers for components that Apple doesn't use in its own hardware is part of that "better user experience" talked about above... You may disagree with Apple's approach of bundling hardware and software but you would be foolish to expect a company taking that route to produce software that runs on other devices. Notice that the cheapest Windows 7 option is $120 while Lion is $20. Apple is not selling software to run on other devices. They are selling devices with their software. I hope you understand the difference between a hardware and software company.
- Terretta 15y ago
  On the contrary, you certainly can. This is one of those pedantic situations where the difference between "can" (have the ability to) and "may" (have permission to) becomes relevant. You absolutely can run it in VMWare Workstation, as the link tells you how, on Windows 7, as the link tells you how. You may not be permitted (depends on your jurisdiction and legality of the EULA), but you can.