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I remember a time when my Serbian neighbours were bombed by the US. As a Romanian, I fear the US and the EU far more than Russia.

reducesuffering 5y ago
And what of your Kosovar Albanian neighbors? US and EU were there to stop the conflict that caused 5 times more of them to be killed. No one in their right mind could make the case for involvement to be around oil or money, as opposed to humanitarian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War Serbia supporting Russia in the war on Ukraine is proof enough of who the actual aggressors are.
- helij 5y ago
  Don't spread lies. Serbia is not supporting Russia in the war on Ukraine. For proof please check how they voted in UN. They condemned the Russian agression on Ukraine and voted to suspend Russia from Human Rights Council. Your Wikipedia link is actually much more balanced and not black and white as your obvious anti-Serb sentiment.
  - KptMarchewa 5y ago
    And then Vucic just mouthed at EU and US. UN is nothing.
  - reducesuffering 5y ago
    What lie am I spreading? Ok, I'll grant that saying "Serbia" as whole supporting Russia is incorrect, I should've said "many Serbians." Yes, Serbia's recent UN vote condemning the invasion of Ukraine is appreciated, given their usual Putin-friendliness. But the state still frequently sides with Russia on issues like invading and annexing Crimea: https://balkaninsight.com/2020/12/08/serbia-backs-russia-again-in-un-vote-on-crimea/ https://balkaninsight.com/2020/12/08/serbia-backs-russia-aga... What other non-Russian country would this pro-"invasion of Ukraine" rally happen? https://twitter.com/SerbiaBased/status/1499815809065132033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw https://twitter.com/SerbiaBased/status/1499815809065132033?r... https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/world/europe/ukraine-serbia-russia.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/world/europe/ukraine-serb... and https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-presidential-elections-moscow-elections-d20d885ffd7a86605b05ef97b3e1c4bc https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-presidential... explain more details: "Serbia, a traditional Russian ally, has rejected calls from the European Union and the United States to join in sanctions against Moscow, citing national interests. The country’s representative to the United Nations did vote in favor of a resolution condemning Moscow’s attack on Ukraine as a violation of international law. Despite the Serbian government saying it is seeking EU membership, Vucic and his allies have refrained from condemning Russia over the invasion, a possible sign they want to avoid alienating pro-Russia voters ahead of Sunday’s election. Thousands of people in Serbia have turned out for pro-Putin rallies during the five-week invasion, waving Russian flags and displaying the letter Z - a symbol seen on Russian military vehicles in Ukraine. The support for Moscow makes Serbia somewhat of an outlier in Europe."
radu_floricica 5y ago
You're a minority, not only here but also in Romania. To be perfectly frank, most of us appreciate being in EU exactly for the checks and balances it provides. I DON'T trust our leadership (or electorate) not to lead us to killing innocent people 10 years down the line. It's the kind of stupid we don't usually do, but still, if it somehow happens, I'm happy that there will be NATO bombers there to stop us. What happened in Serbia was stupidly simple, and I really can't imagine how Serbian citizens rationalize this: Yugoslavia broke up, but Serbs wanted to keep their tiny empire even if then had to force ex-members. And while fighting, some ugly ethnic and religious animosities came up, with pretty horrible results. It was about as clearly white and black as what's going on in Ukraine right now.

reducesuffering 5y ago

And what of your Kosovar Albanian neighbors? US and EU were there to stop the conflict that caused 5 times more of them to be killed. No one in their right mind could make the case for involvement to be around oil or money, as opposed to humanitarian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War Serbia supporting Russia in the war on Ukraine is proof enough of who the actual aggressors are.

helij 5y ago
Don't spread lies. Serbia is not supporting Russia in the war on Ukraine. For proof please check how they voted in UN. They condemned the Russian agression on Ukraine and voted to suspend Russia from Human Rights Council. Your Wikipedia link is actually much more balanced and not black and white as your obvious anti-Serb sentiment.
- KptMarchewa 5y ago
  And then Vucic just mouthed at EU and US. UN is nothing.
- reducesuffering 5y ago
  What lie am I spreading? Ok, I'll grant that saying "Serbia" as whole supporting Russia is incorrect, I should've said "many Serbians." Yes, Serbia's recent UN vote condemning the invasion of Ukraine is appreciated, given their usual Putin-friendliness. But the state still frequently sides with Russia on issues like invading and annexing Crimea: https://balkaninsight.com/2020/12/08/serbia-backs-russia-again-in-un-vote-on-crimea/ https://balkaninsight.com/2020/12/08/serbia-backs-russia-aga... What other non-Russian country would this pro-"invasion of Ukraine" rally happen? https://twitter.com/SerbiaBased/status/1499815809065132033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw https://twitter.com/SerbiaBased/status/1499815809065132033?r... https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/world/europe/ukraine-serbia-russia.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/world/europe/ukraine-serb... and https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-presidential-elections-moscow-elections-d20d885ffd7a86605b05ef97b3e1c4bc https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-presidential... explain more details: "Serbia, a traditional Russian ally, has rejected calls from the European Union and the United States to join in sanctions against Moscow, citing national interests. The country’s representative to the United Nations did vote in favor of a resolution condemning Moscow’s attack on Ukraine as a violation of international law. Despite the Serbian government saying it is seeking EU membership, Vucic and his allies have refrained from condemning Russia over the invasion, a possible sign they want to avoid alienating pro-Russia voters ahead of Sunday’s election. Thousands of people in Serbia have turned out for pro-Putin rallies during the five-week invasion, waving Russian flags and displaying the letter Z - a symbol seen on Russian military vehicles in Ukraine. The support for Moscow makes Serbia somewhat of an outlier in Europe."

radu_floricica 5y ago

You're a minority, not only here but also in Romania. To be perfectly frank, most of us appreciate being in EU exactly for the checks and balances it provides. I DON'T trust our leadership (or electorate) not to lead us to killing innocent people 10 years down the line. It's the kind of stupid we don't usually do, but still, if it somehow happens, I'm happy that there will be NATO bombers there to stop us. What happened in Serbia was stupidly simple, and I really can't imagine how Serbian citizens rationalize this: Yugoslavia broke up, but Serbs wanted to keep their tiny empire even if then had to force ex-members. And while fighting, some ugly ethnic and religious animosities came up, with pretty horrible results. It was about as clearly white and black as what's going on in Ukraine right now.