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Seems a false equivalency. The majority of the personalized destruction, cancelling, firing, etc, comes from one side.
by randomtwiddler 4y ago
Seems a false equivalency. The majority of the personalized destruction, cancelling, firing, etc, comes from one side.
- sanderjd 4y agoThis is a common claim that seems to be based more on vibes than on evidence.
- SauciestGNU 4y agoYeah there are laws being passed to prohibit certain concepts from being discussed in private corporate trainings. Those laws are being passed by those same partisans who loudly claim to oppose cancel culture. I don't think we can have an honest discussion on the topic without acknowledging one side is using voluntary dissociation as a means of punishment while the other is using the power of the state to prohibit the expression of certain ideas.
- ss108 4y agoBecause that side simply has economic power.
- philosopher1234 4y agoHow about bills restricting voting access to people of color, or the ability to say the word “gay”? Those don’t qualify as material consequences for violating conventions/ideology? You have a one sided view.
- honkdaddy 4y agoWhich bills restrict voting access for people of color?
- philosopher1234 4y agoRead the news some time.
- Skiiing 4y agoI consume a wide range of media every day and I've never seen a bill that "restricts voting access for people of color". It's an extraordinary claim so you would to need provide strong evidence, rather than being dismissive.
- philosopher1234 4y agoHere: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447?i=1000526827484 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id... https://youtu.be/EN9OdruH_qM https://youtu.be/EN9OdruH_qM
- Skiiing 4y agoBy strong evidence I was hoping you'd link to the bill, or to factual reporting from a credible mainstream newspaper. If you're getting news from strongly opinionated talking-heads, then that might explain the disconnect.
- philosopher1234 4y agoForming conclusions about racism requires interpretation. Every time I trust one of you to be genuinely curious about the issue I’m disappointed, and here I am again, disappointed. Not particularly surprising though.
- honkdaddy 4y agoEzra Klein and John Oliver aren't news, they're entertainment personalities like Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson. Though if they're a big part of your information diet as it is, I don't really see this being a fruitful conversation. /r/politics tends to accommodate to that kind of viewpoint a little more, I'd suggest moving the soapbox over there :)
- philosopher1234 4y agoJohn Oliver is more prone to histrionics, but Ezra Klein is genuinely insightful and thoughtful. He’s really a much better/more truthful journalist than joe Rogan or tucker.
- josephcsible 4y ago> bills restricting voting access to people of color I'm not aware of any such bill. What's its name? And why is it not dead on arrival due to the Equal Protection Clause?
- philosopher1234 4y agoI’m not playing plausible deniability games with you. Everyone knows what the point of these bills are.
- josephcsible 4y agoHow is anything I said "plausible deniability games"? You claimed that bills exist that would restrict voting access to people of color. I asked you exactly which bills these are, and you can't/won't tell me.
- Timwi 4y agoThe reason they won't tell you is because you've already presented yourself as someone who would deny the racist goals of a bill merely because it doesn't explicitly mention race. Differently put: everyone knows what these bills are except people who are in denial of institutionalized racism. You've used an argument structure that is reminiscent of that used by people who are in denial of institutionalized racism. Therefore, it is assumed that you are in denial of institutionalized racism, and thus, there's no point telling you about the bills because you're just going to be in denial about them anyway. Meanwhile, anyone who is not in denial can just use any random search engine and find articles like this one: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/03/25/vote-m25.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/03/25/vote-m25.html
- josephcsible 4y agoThis is a Kafka trap. You're setting up a world in which nobody can disagree with you without being in denial.
- banannaise 4y ago...which one?