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Right. The argument being had here is about whether or not telling children that gay people exist is harmful, not over whether or not it's ever okay to tell peo
by NoraCodes 5y ago
Right. The argument being had here is about whether or not telling children that gay people exist is harmful, not over whether or not it's ever okay to tell people what they can and cannot speak about. All I'm saying is that right-wingers in these comments will tend to agree with Graham in the abstract, and because he targets the left in the post, but in practice their politics are not aligned with what he says in this essay.
To your point, though, the law is not about porn; that's already illegal. The law is about literally telling children that gay people exist; unless you believe gay couples are somehow inherently sexual in a way that straight couples aren't, you're off the mark here.
- 0des 5y agoPeople with sleeveless shirts exist, who cares? Its so normal these days I can't imagine all the things I would have to cover first. "Hey son, brace yourself, some people prefer broccoli over cauliflower." It doesn't even make sense. Teach your kid curiosity and general respect for those different from you and let the rest fall into place. Politics only tarnishes your ability to make this common sense observation because regardless of truth you have discarded half of your audience. Except pineapple pizza people. They deserve everything they got coming to them.
- NoraCodes 5y ago> Teach your kid curiosity and general respect for those different from you and let the rest fall into place. It's worth noting that the Florida law, under some readings and I think under its intent, would make it illegal for a teacher to point to a student and her same-sex parents and say "those two women are married and are both raising this child." It's perhaps the most absurd anti-free-speech law I've ever heard of. > Except pineapple pizza people. They deserve everything they got coming to them. My boyfriend was a pineapple pizza person and he is now, no joke, allergic to pineapple. They're an accident waiting to happen.
- ethbr0 5y ago> Except pineapple pizza people. They deserve everything they got coming to them. As someone who likes pineapple and jalapeno pizza, I find this remark very offensive.
- mwcampbell 5y ago> People with sleeveless shirts exist, who cares? Its so normal these days I can't imagine all the things I would have to cover first. "Hey son, brace yourself, some people prefer broccoli over cauliflower." These examples would be relevant if there were factions who vehemently oppose people with sleeveless shirts or who prefer broccoli, and want to make sure they can pass that opposition on to their children.
- UnpossibleJim 5y agoI'm currently thinking of trying to get legislation put before Congress to have all sleeveless shirts labeled as "bras" or "bros", and therefore classified as underwear but I need to do some polling first to see if I have broad public support.
- tomp 5y agoYou're falling for, and perpetuating, left-wing propaganda. The bill doesn't prohibit "saying gay". The bill prohibits discussing sexual orientation. Straight and gay alike. Personally I think that at those ages basically all discussion of sex should be off limits (except strictly in a biological sense "this is where you pee" or "naked boys look like this drawing and naked girls like that drawing"). Also your argument is a nasty bait-and-switch. Your original comment was about "limiting freedom of speech of teachers is bad" but then you switched to "of course we should limit freedom of speech for teachers, but not in this specific case".