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Notable that this is a professional medical association saying this based on a stufy, not a journalist or blogger.

by 737min 5y ago

qiskit 5y ago
Just as notable is that china passed laws to stop this practice in 2015 as the article noted. The same year taiwan stopped the practice of taking organs from prisoners. Yet the propaganda is rather one sided. I wonder. I'm against all organ "donations". If it is your time to die, it's your time to die. Also, the biggest issue in organ donation isn't china or taiwan supposedly harvesting a few dozen prisoners' organs. It's the illegal trafficking of organs of poor and desperate people around the world which makes up almost all of the organ harvesting/donations. I'm going to bet that almost all of the organ harvesting in china, taiwan and most of the world is organ "donations" by poor people. Now that's what people should truly be upset about. But I'd doubt we'd see much propaganda about that.
- tempestn 5y ago
  You're against organ donations from willing donors that save lives? Are you against other forms of life-saving medicine as well?
  - tasuki 5y ago
    The person you're replying to mentioned "poor and desperate people", while you mention the same as "willing donors". Perhaps they're being taken advantage of: they could be in a very bad socio-economic situation through no fault of their own, have no other means to keep themselves fed, or be misled about the potential consequences?
    - tempestn 5y ago
      They said, "I'm against all organ "donations". If it is your time to die, it's your time to die." I agree that paying for organs creates bad incentives. But I think organ donation after (non-capital punishment) death is a Good Thing, and it's hard for me to understand someone being against it.
      - tasuki 5y ago
        Agreed! I mistakenly thought you were replying to the other part of the comment...
- davidjytang 4y ago
  A huge difference between Taiwan and China is that Taiwan does it voluntarily. By the way, prisoners in Taiwan can still voluntarily donate their organs to their close relatives. Trying to mix Taiwan and China together is quite a word salad.
VerminOctopus1 5y ago
Also notable that the article itself was authored by one person, who works here: https://victimsofcommunism.org/leader/matthew-robertson/ https://victimsofcommunism.org/leader/matthew-robertson/

Notable that this is a professional medical association saying this based on a stufy, not a journalist or blogger.

by 737min 5y ago

Notable that this is a professional medical association saying this based on a stufy, not a journalist or blogger.

Just as notable is that china passed laws to stop this practice in 2015 as the article noted. The same year taiwan stopped the practice of taking organs from prisoners. Yet the propaganda is rather one sided. I wonder. I'm against all organ "donations". If it is your time to die, it's your time to die. Also, the biggest issue in organ donation isn't china or taiwan supposedly harvesting a few dozen prisoners' organs. It's the illegal trafficking of organs of poor and desperate people around the world which makes up almost all of the organ harvesting/donations. I'm going to bet that almost all of the organ harvesting in china, taiwan and most of the world is organ "donations" by poor people. Now that's what people should truly be upset about. But I'd doubt we'd see much propaganda about that.

tempestn 5y ago
You're against organ donations from willing donors that save lives? Are you against other forms of life-saving medicine as well?
- tasuki 5y ago
  The person you're replying to mentioned "poor and desperate people", while you mention the same as "willing donors". Perhaps they're being taken advantage of: they could be in a very bad socio-economic situation through no fault of their own, have no other means to keep themselves fed, or be misled about the potential consequences?
  - tempestn 5y ago
    They said, "I'm against all organ "donations". If it is your time to die, it's your time to die." I agree that paying for organs creates bad incentives. But I think organ donation after (non-capital punishment) death is a Good Thing, and it's hard for me to understand someone being against it.
    - tasuki 5y ago
      Agreed! I mistakenly thought you were replying to the other part of the comment...
davidjytang 4y ago
A huge difference between Taiwan and China is that Taiwan does it voluntarily. By the way, prisoners in Taiwan can still voluntarily donate their organs to their close relatives. Trying to mix Taiwan and China together is quite a word salad.

VerminOctopus1 5y ago

Also notable that the article itself was authored by one person, who works here: https://victimsofcommunism.org/leader/matthew-robertson/ https://victimsofcommunism.org/leader/matthew-robertson/