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I feel like a pariah sometimes in those discussions. I agree with PG in that I'm also not too happy with the "only X can be x-ist", but on the other hand I'm a

by ratww 5y ago

I feel like a pariah sometimes in those discussions. I agree with PG in that I'm also not too happy with the "only X can be x-ist", but on the other hand I'm also not a conspiracy nut that talks non-stop about "critical race theory". I'm also not free speech absolutist, as I'm ok with things like European law criminalizing Nazism or glorification of genocide. I feel like I'm constantly against three very radical groups, and there's nobody representing me. I'm tired of radicalism coming from three different directions.

Apocryphon 5y ago
When liberalism, conservatism, and libertarianism have all failed you, perhaps the only path left is communitarianism.
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
  Anarchism also remains.
  - mordae 5y ago
    But we desperately need more anarchists. :-) Perhaps people should read David Graeber and Cory Doctorow more? The whole culture wars thing is a prime example of complementary schismogenesis in action, which was rather nicely presented in the Dawn of Everything from Graeber on couple thousand years old tribes.
  - falcolas 5y ago
    Personally, I’d rather not be murdered for my resources, thanks.
- deleted 5y ago
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mordae 5y ago
Hahaha, same here. Have you noticed how the discussion here is fairly civil? It's very similar to most Reddit places, lobste.rs and other *moderated* fora as well. Most of these extremes only arise in unmoderated spaces such as Facebook and Twitter. Or the original /b/. Similar things are happening in the news comment sections wherever they don't care to moderate. It radicalizes people long-term. I am no fan of censorship, but EU will probably step in eventually.
teddyh 5y ago
I’m reminded of Philip K. Dick’s The Chromium Fence (1955): ’I’m not!’ Walsh shouted futilely. ‘I’m not a Purist and I’m not a Naturalist! You hear me?’ Nobody heard him. — https://web.archive.org/web/20150419173332/http://american-buddha.com/dick.phildickreader.20.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20150419173332/http://american-b...

by ratww 5y ago

Apocryphon 5y ago

When liberalism, conservatism, and libertarianism have all failed you, perhaps the only path left is communitarianism.

PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
Anarchism also remains.
- mordae 5y ago
  But we desperately need more anarchists. :-) Perhaps people should read David Graeber and Cory Doctorow more? The whole culture wars thing is a prime example of complementary schismogenesis in action, which was rather nicely presented in the Dawn of Everything from Graeber on couple thousand years old tribes.
- falcolas 5y ago
  Personally, I’d rather not be murdered for my resources, thanks.
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mordae 5y ago

Hahaha, same here. Have you noticed how the discussion here is fairly civil? It's very similar to most Reddit places, lobste.rs and other *moderated* fora as well. Most of these extremes only arise in unmoderated spaces such as Facebook and Twitter. Or the original /b/. Similar things are happening in the news comment sections wherever they don't care to moderate. It radicalizes people long-term. I am no fan of censorship, but EU will probably step in eventually.

teddyh 5y ago

I’m reminded of Philip K. Dick’s The Chromium Fence (1955): ’I’m not!’ Walsh shouted futilely. ‘I’m not a Purist and I’m not a Naturalist! You hear me?’ Nobody heard him. — https://web.archive.org/web/20150419173332/http://american-buddha.com/dick.phildickreader.20.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20150419173332/http://american-b...