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I don't understand some of your arguments. "50% of the population doesn't pay federal income taxes. How is this not a tax break?" The last time I paid no inco

by laaph 15y ago

I don't understand some of your arguments. "50% of the population doesn't pay federal income taxes. How is this not a tax break?" The last time I paid no income taxes, it was because I made so very little money. My understanding is that because I make so little it is understood that it is better for me to keep that money than to shuffle it around in government assistance. Now, with a 50%, that would imply that half the population lives on a small amount of money, and thus be an argument that something is not at all balanced. Or, if you think the 50% makes perfectly good amounts of money thus they could afford taxes, and the people making small amounts are paying too much taxes, then again, I think you are only bolstering the arguments of those you are arguing against. Your other comments don't seem logical to me either (people start businesses in european countries all the time, cell phones can be cheap on a prepaid plan, it is arguable that you do need a phone to live in today's society, etc). Saying 30% of people do not have health care is shocking to anyone who thinks health care fundamental for life (you take care of your car, but not your body?). Of course I have made a lot of assumptions in what I've written, but without understanding your assumptions and what you are trying to say, I could only use this as arguments to why I should support the protestors.

rick888 15y ago
"The last time I paid no income taxes, it was because I made so very little money. My understanding is that because I make so little it is understood that it is better for me to keep that money than to shuffle it around in government assistance." I thought everyone needed to pay their fair share? Or is it only for the people working? If more people were taxed, they might not be fighting so hard to have money taken out of the pockets of other people. It's easy to support laws that give you all of the benefits. "Now, with a 50%, that would imply that half the population lives on a small amount of money, and thus be an argument that something is not at all balanced." no, it just means that the other 50% are paying the taxes for everyone else. I seriously doubt 50% of the population are making so little money that they can't pay federal income taxes. "Saying 30% of people do not have health care is shocking to anyone who thinks health care fundamental for life (you take care of your car, but not your body?)" Right, if you can afford to take care of your car, you should be using that money towards your body (IE: healthcare) instead. There is a problem with health care in the US, but government-run care isn't the answer. "Your other comments don't seem logical to me either (people start businesses in european countries all the time, cell phones can be cheap on a prepaid plan, it is arguable that you do need a phone to live in today's society, etc)" You could easily get by without a cell phone. Most libraries have free Internet access. "people start businesses in european countries all the time" As it is, starting a business is tough. I can't imagine how the difficulty of it with the government taking out 60%+. I would also be interested to see the percentage of small businesses compared to huge businesses opening up a European branch. "I could only use this as arguments to why I should support the protestors." I feel like everyone supporting the protesters are making it into something it's not. You're supporting them for all of these reasons that probably have nothing to do with the actual reason people are protesting.

by laaph 15y ago

rick888 15y ago

"The last time I paid no income taxes, it was because I made so very little money. My understanding is that because I make so little it is understood that it is better for me to keep that money than to shuffle it around in government assistance." I thought everyone needed to pay their fair share? Or is it only for the people working? If more people were taxed, they might not be fighting so hard to have money taken out of the pockets of other people. It's easy to support laws that give you all of the benefits. "Now, with a 50%, that would imply that half the population lives on a small amount of money, and thus be an argument that something is not at all balanced." no, it just means that the other 50% are paying the taxes for everyone else. I seriously doubt 50% of the population are making so little money that they can't pay federal income taxes. "Saying 30% of people do not have health care is shocking to anyone who thinks health care fundamental for life (you take care of your car, but not your body?)" Right, if you can afford to take care of your car, you should be using that money towards your body (IE: healthcare) instead. There is a problem with health care in the US, but government-run care isn't the answer. "Your other comments don't seem logical to me either (people start businesses in european countries all the time, cell phones can be cheap on a prepaid plan, it is arguable that you do need a phone to live in today's society, etc)" You could easily get by without a cell phone. Most libraries have free Internet access. "people start businesses in european countries all the time" As it is, starting a business is tough. I can't imagine how the difficulty of it with the government taking out 60%+. I would also be interested to see the percentage of small businesses compared to huge businesses opening up a European branch. "I could only use this as arguments to why I should support the protestors." I feel like everyone supporting the protesters are making it into something it's not. You're supporting them for all of these reasons that probably have nothing to do with the actual reason people are protesting.