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Regarding Crimea and Donbass, as far as I am aware there were no attempts to overthrow the government by local population before Russian military seized control
by codedokode 5y ago
Regarding Crimea and Donbass, as far as I am aware there were no attempts to overthrow the government by local population before Russian military seized control of government buildings.
So the difference is clear:
- in Kyiv, everything started with protests that the government tried to suppress for several months
- in Crimea everything started with Russian military taking control over the peninsula which is a foreign intervention, exactly the type that commenters above try to attribute to USA. But there were no USA soldiers on Maidan, and there were Russian soldiers in Crimea and Donbass.
- unmole 5y ago> as far as I am aware there were no attempts to overthrow the government by local population The Guardian says otherwise: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/23/ukraine-crisis-secession-russian-crimea https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/23/ukraine-crisis...
- lostmsu 5y agoThis article talks about a regular protest. No overthrow attempts were made
- xg15 5y agoHow is this relevant in deciding whether a protest was caused by outside manipulation vs free will of the people?
- lostmsu 5y agoPersonally, I don't care about outside manipulation, unless it is either achieved by spreading misinformation, or by military force. Second, the parent comments were explicitly referring to overthrow.