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M1 consoles can't boot off external drives if your internal drives are inoperable. M1 consoles can't replace their internal drives. M1 consoles are generally ha

M1 consoles can't boot off external drives if your internal drives are inoperable. M1 consoles can't replace their internal drives. M1 consoles are generally hard to interface with third party thunderbolt 3 devices. M1 consoles don't have full USB-C support. M1 consoles have to emulate most software. And yet people still question weather M1 are consoles and claim they are real computers. They're not. They're really nice, proprietary consoles with cut corners. And most users will never notice the hardware cut corners because they stay within Apple's walled garden and never open the hardware.

drewbug01 5y ago
Calling it a “console” in this way makes it hard to take the argument seriously. That said, I believe almost all of my software is now compiled for arm64, and is no longer emulated. They’re real computers, no sense in arguing otherwise. It dilutes the very real criticism of “their firmware makes some poor choices that hinder compatibility, etc.”
samwestdev 5y ago
I'm sorry but what do you mean by 'M1 consoles'?
- teilo 5y ago
  He's trying to say they are no better than an XBox. It's a slur.
IAmEveryone 5y ago
"Have to emulate most software", WTF? I just checked activity monitor, and of the 575 processes it shows, exactly zero are not native. ...but I can see how you may have trouble interfacing with things, like reason or society. Also: the corners are rounded, not cut.
- superkuh 5y ago
  And how many of those processes come from software outside of your repos/app store? No one, myself included, is saying that megacorp software isn't going to eventually get ported. Even linux might eventually run. But as of right now, as it's been for a year or two, most software doesn't. It's okay for console users because they never download and compile that .tar.gz source tarball off some dude's website. But realistically most software isn't going to run without lots of effort so, yes, it has to be emulated. There's a reason isapplesiliconready.com exists.

drewbug01 5y ago

Calling it a “console” in this way makes it hard to take the argument seriously. That said, I believe almost all of my software is now compiled for arm64, and is no longer emulated. They’re real computers, no sense in arguing otherwise. It dilutes the very real criticism of “their firmware makes some poor choices that hinder compatibility, etc.”

samwestdev 5y ago

I'm sorry but what do you mean by 'M1 consoles'?

teilo 5y ago
He's trying to say they are no better than an XBox. It's a slur.

IAmEveryone 5y ago

"Have to emulate most software", WTF? I just checked activity monitor, and of the 575 processes it shows, exactly zero are not native. ...but I can see how you may have trouble interfacing with things, like reason or society. Also: the corners are rounded, not cut.

superkuh 5y ago
And how many of those processes come from software outside of your repos/app store? No one, myself included, is saying that megacorp software isn't going to eventually get ported. Even linux might eventually run. But as of right now, as it's been for a year or two, most software doesn't. It's okay for console users because they never download and compile that .tar.gz source tarball off some dude's website. But realistically most software isn't going to run without lots of effort so, yes, it has to be emulated. There's a reason isapplesiliconready.com exists.