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Since the move to Electron, Evernote has become a dumpster fire. It's considerably slower in everything and no longer supports standard native affordances. I've

Since the move to Electron, Evernote has become a dumpster fire. It's considerably slower in everything and no longer supports standard native affordances. I've moved my 12k notes to Apple Notes and the difference is staggering.

bprasanna 5y ago
Somehow the apps which are using Electron don't care about RAM. I always use Evernote in browser in a desktop, likewise Slack. Slack app in Mac is horrible.
troad 5y ago
Out of the frying pan and into the fire, eh? Sure, Apple Notes may have native window resize, but can you tell if the app is syncing right now? When was the last sync? What happens in case of a versioning clash? Will it decide to work with patchy Internet on that upcoming train ride? Will it sync once you go back online? Will it decide to party with some random Exchange server you used for work once, and how will this affect your notes? Are your notes safe from random changes in formatting when Apple rolls out improvements to the Notes app? Don't get me wrong, I love my iPhone and have used Macs for decades, but I wouldn't trust Apple cloud services with anything even remotely important. I'm even a little sceptical about Mac Finder at this point, which is ten minutes away from becoming a cloud service itself.
- throwmeariver1 5y ago
  Never lost a note with apple notes lost a lot of notes with Evernote. anecdotal but I personally don't care about empirical data in regards of myself.
- makecheck 5y ago
  My main issue with Notes right now is that somewhere along the way we became OK with software having no Undo at all, combined with the power to instantly sync your typo everywhere so it is truly gone forever, combined with UI that basically encourages accidents. So if I am perfect when typing with a tiny virtual keyboard, nothing goes wrong; otherwise, I could lose things in ways that are interpreted by the software as me choosing to lose them, which is bogus.
  - js2 5y ago
    Apple Notes supports undo which reverts all changes you've made in the current editing session for a note. A note can also be undeleted for 30 days.
    - coffeeling 5y ago
      Isn't their sync system CRDT-based? Would be really weird to not have undo with it.
  - tyrfing 5y ago
    It actually does have undo, something I know about from it frequently detecting waving my phone around as an attempt to undo.
    - message 5y ago
      Use three fingers swipe gesture from left to right. That’s also an undo action in Notes. From right to left is redo.
swat535 5y ago
If you are on Apple, have you tried Bear app?
- crossroadsguy 5y ago
  Or the FOSS FS Notes https://github.com/glushchenko/fsnotes https://github.com/glushchenko/fsnotes (I don’t use it as it doesn’t fit my case but I bought it because the developer is really dedicated to work on it). Very similar to Bear.

bprasanna 5y ago

Somehow the apps which are using Electron don't care about RAM. I always use Evernote in browser in a desktop, likewise Slack. Slack app in Mac is horrible.

troad 5y ago

Out of the frying pan and into the fire, eh? Sure, Apple Notes may have native window resize, but can you tell if the app is syncing right now? When was the last sync? What happens in case of a versioning clash? Will it decide to work with patchy Internet on that upcoming train ride? Will it sync once you go back online? Will it decide to party with some random Exchange server you used for work once, and how will this affect your notes? Are your notes safe from random changes in formatting when Apple rolls out improvements to the Notes app? Don't get me wrong, I love my iPhone and have used Macs for decades, but I wouldn't trust Apple cloud services with anything even remotely important. I'm even a little sceptical about Mac Finder at this point, which is ten minutes away from becoming a cloud service itself.

throwmeariver1 5y ago
Never lost a note with apple notes lost a lot of notes with Evernote. anecdotal but I personally don't care about empirical data in regards of myself.
makecheck 5y ago
My main issue with Notes right now is that somewhere along the way we became OK with software having no Undo at all, combined with the power to instantly sync your typo everywhere so it is truly gone forever, combined with UI that basically encourages accidents. So if I am perfect when typing with a tiny virtual keyboard, nothing goes wrong; otherwise, I could lose things in ways that are interpreted by the software as me choosing to lose them, which is bogus.
- js2 5y ago
  Apple Notes supports undo which reverts all changes you've made in the current editing session for a note. A note can also be undeleted for 30 days.
  - coffeeling 5y ago
    Isn't their sync system CRDT-based? Would be really weird to not have undo with it.
- tyrfing 5y ago
  It actually does have undo, something I know about from it frequently detecting waving my phone around as an attempt to undo.
  - message 5y ago
    Use three fingers swipe gesture from left to right. That’s also an undo action in Notes. From right to left is redo.

swat535 5y ago

If you are on Apple, have you tried Bear app?

crossroadsguy 5y ago
Or the FOSS FS Notes https://github.com/glushchenko/fsnotes https://github.com/glushchenko/fsnotes (I don’t use it as it doesn’t fit my case but I bought it because the developer is really dedicated to work on it). Very similar to Bear.