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Reading through the comment I'm both amazed and appalled about how people are mostly looking at things from the money-perspective, ignoring that people can less

Reading through the comment I'm both amazed and appalled about how people are mostly looking at things from the money-perspective, ignoring that people can less and less afford to heat, cook ... or even food. How disconnected from both reality and humanity can someone be? Freeze for Freedom! Starve for Freedom! Also noteworthy is, that people seem to believe the sanctions are harming the people of Russia, or its economy, more than it harms Europe or the rest of the world. ... lol Anyone thinking these sanctions are a good idea is completely wacko, out of this world. Politicians shit on us people for bullshit reasons with predictable outcomes, none of which are harming Russia (economy/people/government) significantly.

sofixa 5y ago
What do you propose then? Let Russia do whatever destruction and war crimes and genocides it wants? Or start a nuclear war? Those are the three options on the table, and the EU and US are taking the middle way. Yes, the sanctions are hurting Europe too, but their impact is enormous for the Russian economy and people.
- jusssi 5y ago
  I bet Mr P lives in a country that's not high up on Putin's bucket list. It's easy to call others idiots from that relative safety.
  - unmole 5y ago
    > I bet Mr P lives in a country that's not high up on Putin's bucket list. I guessed I missed the memo. Which countries are on this list? Belarus? It's already a Russian puppet state. Georgia? Been there, done that. The Turkic states? They don't really fit into the Rus ethnostate mythos. The Baltics? They are already in NATO.
    - jusssi 5y ago
      > I guessed I missed the memo. Which countries are on this list? Who knows except the man himself. That's the problem right there. Belarus? Why not make it official? Georgia? Maybe they deserve another round? Baltics? It'll be interesting to see how much effort NATO puts in over those. Certainly not nukes. Can turn them into rubble to prove a point, if nothing else. What about Hungary and Poland? Also, aren't you forgetting a couple of countries, scroll up on Google Maps...
      - unmole 5y ago
        > Who knows except the man himself. That's the problem right there. But you do know that there is a list? And after being routed by the Ukrainians, the assumption is that Russia will then invade not just former Soviet republics but also other countries? That's an interesting take.
        jusssi 5y ago
        Look at it this way: the man has shown he doesn't have respect for borders of other countries, he doesn't care about not having friends in the west for the foreseeable future, he doesn't mind expending men and material. He sees something he wants and thinks he can get. Why would he not try, former Soviet country or not? > But you do know that there is a list? Well obviously I can't know, and it's not the point. The point is, with how things have developed, you have to assume that there is a list. It's hard to know who exactly would be on it, but you can make some good guesses who probably aren't.

sofixa 5y ago

What do you propose then? Let Russia do whatever destruction and war crimes and genocides it wants? Or start a nuclear war? Those are the three options on the table, and the EU and US are taking the middle way. Yes, the sanctions are hurting Europe too, but their impact is enormous for the Russian economy and people.

jusssi 5y ago
I bet Mr P lives in a country that's not high up on Putin's bucket list. It's easy to call others idiots from that relative safety.
- unmole 5y ago
  > I bet Mr P lives in a country that's not high up on Putin's bucket list. I guessed I missed the memo. Which countries are on this list? Belarus? It's already a Russian puppet state. Georgia? Been there, done that. The Turkic states? They don't really fit into the Rus ethnostate mythos. The Baltics? They are already in NATO.
  - jusssi 5y ago
    > I guessed I missed the memo. Which countries are on this list? Who knows except the man himself. That's the problem right there. Belarus? Why not make it official? Georgia? Maybe they deserve another round? Baltics? It'll be interesting to see how much effort NATO puts in over those. Certainly not nukes. Can turn them into rubble to prove a point, if nothing else. What about Hungary and Poland? Also, aren't you forgetting a couple of countries, scroll up on Google Maps...
    - unmole 5y ago
      > Who knows except the man himself. That's the problem right there. But you do know that there is a list? And after being routed by the Ukrainians, the assumption is that Russia will then invade not just former Soviet republics but also other countries? That's an interesting take.
      - jusssi 5y ago
        Look at it this way: the man has shown he doesn't have respect for borders of other countries, he doesn't care about not having friends in the west for the foreseeable future, he doesn't mind expending men and material. He sees something he wants and thinks he can get. Why would he not try, former Soviet country or not? > But you do know that there is a list? Well obviously I can't know, and it's not the point. The point is, with how things have developed, you have to assume that there is a list. It's hard to know who exactly would be on it, but you can make some good guesses who probably aren't.